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According to this article, almost
66% of all Windows users are still on Windows XP!

It is no secret that Windows users have learned that change is
something Windows computers don’t like. Often, it is much
easier to leave the Windows version that came with a PC as it was and
avoid the pain of upgrading.

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Source: GGMania headlines
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[nb411]

Oh gods, don't let koogle see this.

[Koogle]

I was gonna leave it alone, but the bait is waiting

Tip to Microsuck, sack your 'Explore shell' team or the idiots in your board rooms in charge of designing and dumbing the OS down for the noob market, as they are part of biggest reason Vis7a fails (other than to noobs who get confused and frightened by features/options and customization and like the dumbing down). Many crap changes and half assed efforts, zero real improvement. Better fucking free extensions and apps that offer more features and improvements of existing Windows/XP stuff , than the shitty effort done by MS and all the thousands of employees it has, after years of what I can only assume is twiddling there thumbs and doing pretty much fuck all for all those years it was in development.

And upgrading just for Dx11(another sly tactic used to force upgrades) is just stupidly pointless when so much else about Win7 is just dumb and worse than XPsp3/x64.

Anyway out of that 66% I'm probably the small minority of pc user who doesn't use the latest and shittest OS with new pc hardware. That FailAreo GUI alone is a waste of a hardware resources.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay-gqx18UTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToFgYylqP_U

Still good thing a lot of businesses haven't buckled under the marketing crap and sly rip off licensing deals to invest in a vis7a OS that does fuck all to improve desktop workflow or anything for that matter that make it worth more money than XP. They should be holding out for a cheap XP license (easy to see why MS wants to remove it and have people buy Win7 and upgrade to XP instead (which should be on the market for less, if Win7 is really that much better/ lolNOT) XP makes a total joke out of Win7, which is only promoted by fanboytards and clueless IT admin diptshits etc oh and web developers who hate IE6 for obvious reasons, but it has nothing to do with XP, and more to do with business that fail to just change the default browser or upgrade the dummIEs browser, both of which don't cost nothing to do, expect for the silly businesses that had bespoke software designed for them that was built around Microsucks propriety api's.

[raven99]

Ah Koogle you can always count on an idiot conspiracy comment from him.

[Baconnaise]

I haven't noticed a difference using XP or Win7. My XP64 machines boot and shut down as fast or slightly faster than Win7. The major difference I have noticed is one has a smaller footprint and the other has a much larger footprint on my hard drives and disks. I will say XP64 has better driver support than it's first year of release. The amount of support is still rather light for my tastes though.

[tride]

Actually Koogle i read you comment and don't see anything specific about how WinXP is better than Win7 ?
I was WinXP user after Vista came out and when i installed Vista, after a couple of months my C: drive had mysteriously lost 30gb... Then i swiched back to XP.
When Win 7 came out i gave it a try. The new interface was sooo shity that i get rid of it and made it look like WinXP. So, now its more than 2 years that i have this RC1 version, and i have nooo problems what so ever!
Its really stable, has no issues at all with my old hardware. My PC is like 3years, some parts even older I dont have USB2 ffs...

So, really cant get this winning about Win7
Vista was crap, but cmon dude - its the way Microshit works, in cycles.
Win 93-ok
Win95-ok
Win98-not ok, SP2-ok
WinMillenium - fakin piece of trash
WInXP-ok
WinVista-piece of crap
Win7-ok
Skip the next one

[psolord]

I've used most home oriented OSes from MS and I have to say that XP and 7 where the best.

Vista sucked so much balls that itss unbelievable until today. Thankfully all that is long gone.

I consider 7 to be the epitomy of XP and Vista.

Still, we use three XP machines at work and one 7 (mine ). No need to upgrade until our main management program demands a new OS.

[Koogle]

"Apart from the security implications and its lack of more modern performance and usability features"

good thing you didn't mention GUI

XPsp3/64 still pisses all over that Winshi7e/vis7a rebranded garbage, XP still has far better shell extensions, much better performance, unhindered by a retarded shell changes that make the defaulty luna and xp shell look like something designed for professionals(at least it has better themes), unlike that crap shi7e, where the idea of theme is some color change and some laughable transparency shit for its retarded UX/UI design. While on my fully customized XP setup I have a far far far better looking visual style theme!!! (yes a theme not that pathetic dumbed shit MS has got away with changing) and it pisses all that FAIL AERO GUI crap and its shit explorer shell!, which looks like it was designed(I mean dumbed down) for fucking sheep, who get confused by settings, customization and decent functionality, or even expect any improvements in os dialogs, and existing features, that have been the same for 8+years, but are easily pleased with weak as piss shit like dx11, and other pathetic frivolous crap that is of no benefit use or improvement to anyone but a clueless retard(oh IT admintards). Who surprisingly wouldn't know what a fucking workflow improvement or intuitive design was about or what it meant to user efficiency if it hit em over the head repeatedly. No wonder Microsuck get noobs to test their products, its soo much easier to sell them shit, and in a few years sell them some slighty changed shit again while bundling it other crap you don't need, cough Vista> 7 .... Vis7eeergh


And what modern performance lol? you're kidding right? I use oc i7 with 6gb ram(2gb used as a ramdisk(hardly ever restart) and 3.24gb actual usable ram) on XP because I get better performance and worlkflow than using that win7 shit, and when I do want to fully utilize the 6gb for rendering I just switch to xp64, because win7 64 is still the same total noob trash I just can't be bothered with forcing myself to use such poorly developed shit I can't stand. It does have slower desktop performance (when I use production software that fully utlizes the gfx card the last thing I want is some not only shitty looking explorer shell gui wanting gfx resources, but I don't want to have to disable the failaero looking crap and use its even more shitted up classic windows style, because they've fucked up the explorer beyond repair that I might aswel just use xp, and the classic shell, because the enhanced visual themes on XP do look better and don't waste resources) . And I can't strrees enough how crappy the explorer shell is on vis7a, just look at the fucking oversized dialogs and setting windows, nothing but empty wasted gui space obviously designed by a Microsuck committee of retards. While XP still has loads more extension support to improve it (notice the LACK of developers doing anything to improve winshite7).

And it has countless reported issues with audio handling (Audiodg.exe notice XP doesn't need no stinking CPU bound process for handling audio) because of the stupid changes in the audio stack of it being less hardware accelerated regardless of proper audio hardware in the machine.

Another problem with the stupid design changes in vis7a is that DPClatency is a problem that can effects all idiots using vis7a OS, where as XP users on the same hardware will never notice any side effects. Not to mention multitasking with a handling lots more windows on screen is also faster thanks to not using that stupidly shit and unfinished WDDM 1.1 crap, that was clearly rushed through right from vista. Maybe in Win8 after Microsuck has had a couple of years for a mass idiots to buy into supporting 2 previous shit vis7a OS's, will the changes they introduced into the core of windows system, finally start to benefit actual users. Instead of causing countless fuckups and bugs for people wanting a productive desktop environment to work with. Basically not your stupid office drones and clueless IT fanboy dipshits working with crappy Office software and just being shit heads basically (the kind of people who really won't see anything better win7 other than flashy shinny transparent crap of failaero design) Now anyone left wanting to have a laugh at win7 fail security/firewall features, and fail system utilities, just so many areas of poorly developed win7 Microshite to laugh at really But hey they must be getting the biggest laugh at consumers and business actually buying (forced) and supporting that pathetic junk that hardly improved shit all(infact worse), I just laugh at people who want the latest security updates(lol yes because you're so stupid you'll likely install a virus, MS thanks all noobs for allowing them to update and monitor your pc with their shit)).

The entire OS wastes more CPU cycles doing fuck all, when XP shows the opposite, the benchmarks prove it. The only cases where Win7 gains a tiny advancement performance(wow after 8+years they could eek a some performance at what cost eh ) doesn't make up for the rest of fucked up design retardation that makes your stupid comment about usability features (for NOOBS and knob ends) a fucking joke, that is just waiting for me shit all over. Care to tell me what the usability feature is that you so proudly think of that is unique to Winshite 7? And has clearly improved your worlflow Is it win7 shite fail explorer search and its crappy management? there is something better to replace that. taskbar? lol

"Yeah the new OS's are great and outperform their aging counterparts"

lolnot, if you're serious what planet are you on? you can't be talking about vis7a that's for sure.

"Actually Koogle i read you comment and don't see anything specific about how WinXP is better than Win7 ? 2

Tride that is because you must be blind?, check the youtube vids for a start, I just read your comment and saw even less that was specific to how Winshite7 is better than WinXP (the professional OS) And while I do agree with ok /crap list, Win7 is not ok (maybe for most people, sure, who would otherwise need it explaining as to why its so crap and how it should have been better, and how they've been duped) so when you really get down to it, it is still vista crap with vista issues.

Anyway the biggest problem Win7 is the total lack of any improvement to explorer.exe shell, and there are still countless issues with the numerous extra background processes win7 runs that Xp doesn't have!

In the end the ONLY thing Win7 has to offer is dx11, fuck all else, everything it does have is inferior shit to what anyone with brain and some taste, can just get better stuff on XPsp3/64 instead. Anyone who talks about performance improvements has their head fully lodged up their ass while drinking down the MS koolaid of lies and marketing garbage because they won't want to hear of all countless issues and facts of Win7 failing to be better than an OS that is going past 10years old. I only ever jump ship when things are better elsewhere, right now that ain't going to be win7, even its upcoming service pack does fuck all to improve what its biggest flaws are.

"Ah Koogle you can always count on an idiot conspiracy comment from him."

what was that then? Mr idiotic shit head raven99? You sound like the countless retards who call everything a conspiracy if it doesn't fit their ill-logical ideology of bullshit they are determined to believe in, regardless of how its ripped apart and exposed for the crap and/or lies that its built up on. Now fuck off or come back with something meaningful for me rip into or agree with(highly doubtful).

"I consider 7 to be the epitomy of XP and Vista. "

I consider it to be a a half a step forward and big sidestep into cow poo for a decade that is pathetic. Vista was years overdue, 7 was 3years(or about 2months of actual work and lots of beta's to attract gullible idiots into thinking their helping) ontop of ironing out stupid vista shit, but they still did pretty much fuck all really. Looking at the time line of what has actually happened XP is the epitomy of vista and 7. Because in the time Microsoft had its thumbs up its ass doing fuck all decent other than thinking of ways of forcing users/business off XP, most developers had continued to just work on supporting and improving things for XP.

It is partly why XP still has a userbase of ~66%, its MS biggest competition outside of lame crap like OSX(which is probably right on par for junk like win7, Apple should be thanking MS for dumbing its own OS down and evening out the playground of competition, even Linux and its minefield of various distros must be happy)

[Tom]

This guy knows jack shit and provides no sources. Here is a reputable site where most pull their numbers from, except for this nobody Wolfgang obviously (his numbers are like 6+ months old )... http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10

And no duh there are a lot of Windows XP users LOL! Businesses alone make up much of the marketshare numbers.. M$ is happy in that Windows 7 has surpassed the Vista #'s and M$ is happy that XP is continually going down. MS also claims to have sold nearly 180million Win7 licenses.. which ain't too shabby.

I think XP is/was a great OS but I got bored of it myself. To me it's for those who are a little slow on PC's and technology. I like to stay on top of things and run with current shit, not dated old pieces of shit like XP. Do I miss anything in XP? Nope. Not one thing. XP could never handle the amount of apps and games I had on my system. It would need to be rebooted every few weeks. Win 7? I can't even remember the last time I had to reboot. It never slows down.

I ran with Vista 64bit before Win7 and I have to admit it sucked initially but if you really knew what you were doing you could get it to work well. I did. So I went from XP to Vista 64bit to Windows 7 64bit and I seriously do not ever see myself going back to XP or Vista. Windows 7 is definitely a keeper for me. I use XP in the office because I really have no choice.

[Csimbi]

I use XP, Ubuntu on my PC and there's 7 on my wife's laptop (it came with it).
XP is solid, and it works flawlessly. Why break it when it works?
Windows 7 is good for my wife - she is less likely to "catch" a virus with all those stupid authorization popups and she can click on those five-six icons on the desktop just the same as in XP.

An "XP to 7" upgrade for an administrator in a corporation spells nothing but trouble, so they need a very good reason for upgrading the OS - and XP is a good OS, so there's no compelling reason to do so.

It seems Windows 7 is not going to be the next big thing - so what? They are sitting on a pile of money, so they do not need to care. I guess MS will rethink it only when their income starts decreasing.
My worry is this: Stevo said he wants more frequent WinDOS releases. If they did that, the market would be very segmented and software houses would be in trouble supporting all the junk labeled as "OS". Just look at Vista vs. WinDOS 7. So, Stevo had an idea, but it was a bad one. He's getting old and senile, what did you expect? Get over it - you still have XP.

When MS is talking about sales, its talking about licenses. That 180million is not too shabby, but it includes vendors, corporations, schools that buy licenses in 5k, 10k or even 100k volumes, so do not think - even for a second - that there are 180million WinDOS 7 users out there. If I had to guess, I would estimate 60-80million real users (who chose to use WinDOS 7 themselves), most of that residing in the US and the majority being noobs. (People in the US are easier to feed with false advertisements. Inexperienced people - especially elderly people - believe anything they hear.) Oh, and I would not be surprised if 10-15% of those users would be using XP actually, despite of having the license to WinDOS 7.

[Koogle]

"This guy knows jack shit and provides no sources"

I am a fucking source asshole, and the internet has enough sources to prove the points I have made! aerotaskforce.com for one. You seem to be the one who knows jack shit and wants to spread FUD on XP while making out Win7 is cutting edge.. yeah a cutting edge shite pile for enthusiast noobs and the more polity put 'casual users' Not productive people or enthusiasts who like decent features and good design.

"Not one thing. XP could never handle the amount of apps and games I had on my system. "

LoL? wtf... what kind of fail logic is that? did getting a bigger harddrive you bought with your bundled win7 system finally allow you to install more games and apps?

Or are you really blaming an OS for not being able to run more apps and games? Are you seriously fucking telling me that Win7 on the same hardware you used with XP, has allowed you to do and run more stuff at once? rofl You're a fucking lying marketing douche bag and an idiot in that case. Win7 can't run as many resource hungry apps/games at the same time or as performant as XP can.... partly because of its fail desktop composition crap (Failareo again). Its not better at all, in most cases worse and every other case very much on par, proving that hardware is the underlying factor, at least when its not hindered by shit OS flaws and bugs.. no surprise then.

"180million Win7 licenses.. which ain't too shabby. "

Microsuck thanks dumb fucking sheep herders like you Tom, I'm glad someone is supporting such scumopolies and dirty licensing tactics to boost its selling of its crap OS. I wonder how many business reverted back to using XP after being coerced into buying a Win7 license

"To me Win7 is for those who are a little slow on PC's and technology. "

I've rephrased your nonsense so its more in line with actual reality and how the opposite of what crap you say, is being proven more true daily lol!

"Win 7? I can't even remember the last time I had to reboot. It never slows down. "

That is because it slow by useless gui/ux design already noob. You're also lying again because Win7 does have to restarted just like XP when installing new shit/drivers etc, again its core architecture hasn't really improved over XP at all, so how can it be better. eer it can't durr!

"It never slows down. "

:S Win7 still uses a registry, everything that could slow down XP in start up times etc will slow down Win7, you're reasoning is flawed. There ain't shit in Win7 that has really improved that a user of XP couldn't find better replacements to use instead.

koogle always ready to debunk idiots one at time.

[Baconnaise]

If we are going to gripe about design and performance than I want my Novell back .

[Tom]

Oh Koogle the carpet muncher is here... Sorry Koogle I didn't read anyones rants except this severely dated news article written by a complete nobody that has data that is +6 months old.

boringly I will address your verbal trash..

[Koogle]

Tom you shit head, you have to use lies and endless stupidity to prove nothing but how stupid you are being.

"lastly, like I said above, I didn't read anyones comments so my comments weren't directed at anyone or in response to anyones. "

nut job, you probably didn't read what I said to you in the last topic about 4x3 crt being a no brainer for playing fps games at 100hz/100fps.

"Ho ho ho.. boy what a funny guy, try 112 games, and 60 apps on average, Apache/SQL/PHP server. Yep it slowed down, disk thrashed like hell after about a week."

What a spastic... The-disk-thrashed-like-hell-after-about-a-week? rofl?!?! MS didn't do anything to change disk management and NTFS file handling. WinFS never made it their. Its memory management unsubstantial claims again.. there isn't some amazing better improvement, fuck even its page file usage isn't really better. And yet a shit head like you amazingly saw such a vast improvement. You are a classic case of a computer noob, "I made/ or had these series of changes to my setup and somehow everything was better, therefore it must have been this one thing(win7) that magically improved everything" wow with flawed reasoning like that you'll do great at advertising to other idiots.

"you clearly know jack shit about Win7."

oh you do make me laugh, I know what Win7 does and doesn't do better than you. It's why for me I still don't bother using it, until the balance tips in favor of using it (I can tell it will have nothing to do with MS useless efforts for win7), only then when its overall benefits provided by other developers overshadow the disadvantages and bridge over the flawed design will I use it. Basically I'm not a fanboy.

"- aerotaskforce.com antiquated shit site that isn't even supported anymore, who gives a shit what's on there. It's always been a site for whiny ass idiots."

-what a fucking ignorant retard (I bet you didn't even get past the first page of understanding why users would want such improvements to such requests lol) . Clearly it would be a total waste of time going on and proving how dumb your comments are, you'll just come back with more garbage and defamation of lies and bullshit to distract from the topic.

"I bet ya his mouse still has a ball in it too."

I still use a Logitech G5, quality mouse, new not always better imo. Still I'd imagine the next topic we have with you Tom, will have you shouting out I use a ball mouse Such a joker.

You must really go through life in biased arrogance... nuff said really. XP ain't going anywhere anytime soon.

[Ceriden]

It's too bad these forums don't have a moderator. Then maybe we could be free from both of you.