Gameguru Mania

ggrobot · Elite Member Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 53584

Along with announcing

the PlayStation 3's launch title lineup yesterday, the Japanese company published

a "fact sheet" (*.doc o's Wii. The fact sheet says an Xbox 360 system comparable to Sony's cheapest $499 PS3 costs a staggering $698. This figure is derived from Sony's claim that the

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djRom · Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject:

No many how many times Sony thinks they can pull a Tom Cruise...I still think the PS3 will be the better value in the end. Even if it is a large nut to swallow from the start. The x360 (premium) ain't much better, but atleast that includes 3 game titles for around the same price as the PS3 (premium), without any games. But in my opinion the PS3 is more capable, plus no subscription fee. ~shrugs~

xxxx · Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject:

Ya I was really high on Xbox 360 but most likely I will have a PS3 the day it comes out. It seems superior to Xbox in nearly every way. Games comig look amazing. PC and video card prices are a joke and I don't care for that anymore. nVidia and ATI had a chance to get 'reasonable' prices for the vid cards but I guess their logic is, "pc gamers are so dumb, they'll pay $700 for a video card, so why should we lower prices". 20+ years later, I'm done be a foolish PC gamer. Thank you Sony, MS and Nintendo for more realistic gaming platforms.

djRom · Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:36 pm Post subject:

Wow, I am shocked. This is one of the few times I actually see eye to eye (for the most part) with you. Smile

Sabot · Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject:

Well i've had consoles now for nearly 3 years, apart from a handfull of titles they just have *nothing* over PC gaming, they are great for a 'fix' but far to shallow and certainly no where near as deep enough to hold my attention for long!.
I too went through the 'end of the PC' mid-life crisis at exactly that point 3years ago. Flight sims had died and i 'couldn't go on' Laughing

(12years of solid PC gaming and building my own machines, man i was low..)

I bought both Sony and M$ and did some research into what are the best games to buy from the usual mags that cost a bloody fortune!
Played and went through plenty of games on both, initialy (the honeymoon period) i could play for about 4hours. Then i got over the excitement and got *seriously* sick of the lack of game save points or die and go back 1/2 hour to where the last load is... Rolling Eyes

That's what kicks the arse out of consoles, Fun?! i could have thrown the bloody things MILES!! Obviously the lack of save points is because the games are generaly not long/good enough (i'm talking TRUE console games -not PC ports) Apart from -as i said- a few.

So i wasn't paying nearly £15 more over a PC game either -shit! 6 games on a console and i could have bought a bloody CPU upgrade or more RAM from what i saved!

No, i like my consoles, in small doses, but i quickly decided to upgrade every 2 years on my PC and buy second-hand console games.
Result is i save a fortune and have the best of both worlds.
Example; i bought my AMD 64 3500+ CPU, 10months ago, it cost me ( a full system build by myself) £165. The AMD 64 X2 4600+ CPU was nearly £600 back then. Now i'm getting it for £160 from Amazon! (it's last stock so i'm getting it before they discontinue; that's full retail 36month warranty with HS&F)-the result is i have a high end rig again that will play all my upcoming games, for the price of 3 XBox360 games in the UK.

The other side of them is you can't edit ZERO! Nor make levels,skin, make new models etc,etc,etc.....as you can do without so much as a thought with the PC -it's taken for granted since the days of Doom.

Consoles predominantly produce great graphics but little else, Car simulations look fantastic, BUT they don't do damage?....nope. When Carmageddon came out in 95 on the PC, it's drivers name was MAX DAMAGE -how appropriate since it invented physics and damage on a massive scale.
Consoles spend $$MILLIONS on licensing car models, or films, but that's as far as it goes. I want to see cars SMASH and have a full replay suite that you can save your films. Or have realistic flight simulations like IL-2,Falcon 4 or Massive battles that are REAL like R:TW or M:TW2.
That's never going to be a console anytime soon. How about keyboard or mouse?
The list goes on...
Internet browsing,quick FREE MP games,download FREE demos -you wont be doing that on a console without spending $$ on a magazine with them on... Rolling Eyes

djRom · Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:33 am Post subject:

Great post Stumpus! ~claps~ Smile

xxxx · Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:36 am Post subject:

So you upgraded your cpu and not your mobo? u put a 4600 939 in running with slow ram? Or did you upgrade to am2, put in 2gb of ddr2 and a new mobo? That's not the cost of 3 games. Considering AM2 costs the same as 939 counterparts, seems like a foolish waste of money to me..or you aren't telling the whole story.

Last I looked £160 = $310US. (crazy too if it's 939) oh and again, that's not the cost of 3 games.

That's a bad price too, I got a 4600 'AM2' for $269 CDN.

If you have a 939 processor, hate to tell ya, you're not high end at all. It's just a waste of money.

Crysis is going to run like the dumps on your 7600 and you will lose because of memory bandwidth and bottlenecks of your rig.

xxxx · Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:43 am Post subject:

djRom · Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:38 am Post subject:

Gaming is expensive.

Computers are expensive.

Either way you look at it you are going to spend a lot of money. Hardware doesn't go obsolete tomorrow. Well in some cases, but it doesn't stop getting supported just because something better comes out. If you want top of the line, get a PS3 or X360...And be disappointed in a year or two when your current hardware is tired and can't turn out nearly as nice textures etc as a pc with (not 2 year old technolgy) can. Upgrading every 2 years is a fine, I'm going on 3 without any issue. My 6800 GT is still turning out things fairly nicely.

Ravenheart · Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:22 pm Post subject:

Why get a AM2 when u can get a Core 2 Duo that beats all the top AMD CPUs?

Sabot · Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject:

devilhood · Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject:

Safer · Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject:

And of course, XXXX, the fact that one may play games on either platform, own either platform or do the ultimate heresey - own them all and play them all.

Hmmm... I was not my intent to pull that one of with... that... context. Eitherway, if you enjoy games - AT ALL - you should probably look past simplistic notions of platform fanboism and think: "Oh boy! Crysis! Maybe it's better then Farcry which blew! OH OH! Final Fantasy vs. XIII and Halo freakin three! JOY and overstimilus!" at which point one should take out all the vacation days saved since the announcement of the FFXIII series. (This could also cover the release of Supreme Commander which probably effectivly would kill my real life social life once and for all.)

The counter react to this is: "Fuck Crysis, I have me arcade games on teh Live marketplace! w00t!" (or change it to fit your choice of company and platform dedication!)

I personaly will feel like a freakin god of entertainment when I get to stuff all of the next-gen consoles under my soon to be, Sony 46XBRV2000 HD LCD tv, which is only a few meters from my desk which houses my gaming PC, my developing PC and my work laptop.

But, first things first - a bigger appartment to have my TV in.

Playing games should not be a choice of alligence of heart, soul and mind to a company. Or console "hugging" for that matter as we refer to it here in sweden.

miglaugh · Elite Member Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 367

Sabot · Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:38 pm Post subject:

Lovely TV Safer, my next purchase is the Sony 42" Bravia LCD HD. It's just been reviewed and it's the first LCD to blow away a plasma in performance and right across the scale.

I would love to put my consoles + PC *anywhere* near my current 32" Sony TV! The trouble is it's already got the Sony DVD player, 5.1 Yamaha Surround sound amp, Pioneer Hi-Fi,Pioneer HDD+DVD recorder, old VHS player/recorder for transfering tapes to the Pioneer for editing and a PVR/Hi Def recorder come digital receiver ALL under it!

The bedroom has PS2,XBox and 3 working games PCs from DOS6.22 dual boot Win95, to Win98 and my current rig with WinXP. And nearly 400 PC games plus all my PS2 and XBox games -yeah it's crowded Laughing

You enjoy your gaming mate! I do (on all platforms), it's just that when xxxx comes on the scene it get's dirty and sometimes the points don't sink in.... Rolling Eyes