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ggrobot
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 Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:26 am Post subject: Windows 10 Blocking Counterfeit Games [40113] |
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Microsoft's new unified services agreement is freaking people out because it contains language that says Microsoft can scan Windows 10 devices for pirated software and block it. The clause can be found under section 7b, uot;Updates to the Services or Software, and Changes to These Terms.uot; It reads:
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doodah
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Company doesn't want you doing illegal things! This is "freaking people out"?
Got news for these people - there's a whole group of people dedicated to doing this too, they're called police! Look out for them. |
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zarlin
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| doodah wrote: | Company doesn't want you doing illegal things! This is "freaking people out"?
Got news for these people - there's a whole group of people dedicated to doing this too, they're called police! Look out for them. |
Ahh come on that is NOT the same , now back to your scanning OS  |
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Penetreitor
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:11 pm Post subject: It's a pitty |
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| I've noticed that it also intercept underground networks like TOR, it's a pitty I was enthusiastic to try this new version. I'll keep my Windows 7 then.... |
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Tom
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All BS, my son has illegitimate games. Plays them all the time so whatever their claims are, they aren't active or work very well. Believe what you want, make a fool of yourself. Lots of fools here. Consoles have basically the same thing in their EULA. And who's whining? just cheap bastards who want to game but not pay for legitimate licenses.
Sony:
You agree that you will not use any unauthorized hardware, including peripherals not sold, licensed or certified by a Sony company such as non-licensed game enhancement devices, controllers, adaptors and power supply devices (collectively, "Non-Licensed Peripherals") or unauthorized software to access or use PSN First Party Services or any content or service provided on or through PSN First Party Services.
Nintendo:
https://ap.nintendo.com/internet/
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gx-x
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Nice argument Tom. Since when [url]you[/url] can't afford something as cheap as games?
I can understand people like me, with 300$/month salary, pirating games and shit, but people like you?! And you lashing out like that? FFS Tom...
edit: I don't hate you Tom, I just can't wrap my head around this...You are in a country that enforces laws very well, and you are taking a risk like that for something small like that...It's your business, I get it, I am just publicly confused  |
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Tom
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| The point of the article is that MS is sniffing for your pirated software. It's a trolling news story. I call BS #1, #2 consoles and other game devices already do the same and have for a long time. Whoever wrote the article is a troll who clearly knows jack shit. |
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gx-x
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Tom wrote: | | The point of the article is that MS is sniffing for your pirated software. It's a trolling news story. I call BS #1, #2 consoles and other game devices already do the same and have for a long time. Whoever wrote the article is a troll who clearly knows jack shit. |
I agree with you on that, that goes without saying (I am firewalling shit since forever, nothing goes online without my permission and unless they bury it under svchoosts (Service Host) that is needed to route internet they can shove it up their asses).
I was commenting on something else in your post...Forget it... |
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gx-x
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: It's a pitty |
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| Penetreitor wrote: | | I've noticed that it also intercept underground networks like TOR, it's a pitty I was enthusiastic to try this new version. I'll keep my Windows 7 then.... |
TOR is routing your requests through a slew of proxies and other PCs on the network that use TOR. There is nothing "underground" about it. Windows still has to use it's services to send packets out, that's how shit works. |
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Tom
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| gx-x, exactly. I'm not going to comment on your financial status. |
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Csimbi
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AFAIK, it applies to Xbox junkware only. Most of which are not worth playing anyhow.
The only concern I have with this is that it encourages piracy even more.
Why?
Because now pirates will need to use a pirate OS and on that pirate OS you will play only pirated games, nothing else.
Think oh Windows Live in games? Crackers simply removed it from the games and they worked fine. Can they remove it from the OS? I'm sure there will be a way, but most likely, not without borking the legitimate games so no more legitimate games. |
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gx-x
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| Csimbi wrote: | AFAIK, it applies to Xbox junkware only. Most of which are not worth playing anyhow.
The only concern I have with this is that it encourages piracy even more.
Why?
Because now pirates will need to use a pirate OS and on that pirate OS you will play only pirated games, nothing else.
Think oh Windows Live in games? Crackers simply removed it from the games and they worked fine. Can they remove it from the OS? I'm sure there will be a way, but most likely, not without borking the legitimate games so no more legitimate games. |
Nah, they replace the dll that "reports home" with another one so game doesn't even know it is not reporting. Real W. Live will see installed game and it will figure that it's not activated. Worst case, you will leave W. Live disabled until you want to play a legitimate copy.
Pirated games don't support multiplayer so in any case you have to buy original game if you want MP. So if you want to play, say, battlefield you will have no use for a pirated game.
Oh and :
http://www.gamnesia.com/news/it-turns-out-microsoft-cant-disable-pirated-games-on-windows-10
It turns out it is not true  |
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heretic
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| Tom wrote: | | The point of the article is that MS is sniffing for your pirated software. . |
Exactly. Finally someone who understood the point
MS Sniffing Key points:
-It sends all text you type anywhere (not just into search) every 30 minutes to MS. If you type about a holiday to your blog, next day youll see holiday ads.
- every 30 minutes it sends your geolocation and network info
-if you type a telephone number into Edge it sends it to MS after 5 min
-if you type anywhere in windows a name of some movie, windows will start indexing all your media files after a while and will send it to MS after 30 minutes of your inactivity
-after installing W10, it will send about 35MB of data once
-after turning on your webcam for the first time it sends data to microsoft once. Probably your photo.
-everything you say is transferred to MS, it works even if you disable and remove and uninstall Cortana. Parts of Cortana are needed for the core of the OS to run. Confirmed by MS helpdesk. You can be identified by your voice anywhere near a microphone after they get enough data from you.
-Voice to text is transferred instantly
-voice is transferred every 15 min, 80MB of data
-after 15 minutes of your inactivity or when screensaver is on, network activity ramps up and everything else is being sent to MS
-blocking in hosts doesnt work, some IPs are hardcoded into their code and DLLs |
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Tom
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Well how about that eh... Troll article. |
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Csimbi
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| heretic wrote: | | Tom wrote: | | The point of the article is that MS is sniffing for your pirated software. . |
Exactly. Finally someone who understood the point
MS Sniffing Key points:
-It sends all text you type anywhere (not just into search) every 30 minutes to MS. If you type about a holiday to your blog, next day youll see holiday ads.
- every 30 minutes it sends your geolocation and network info
-if you type a telephone number into Edge it sends it to MS after 5 min
-if you type anywhere in windows a name of some movie, windows will start indexing all your media files after a while and will send it to MS after 30 minutes of your inactivity
-after installing W10, it will send about 35MB of data once
-after turning on your webcam for the first time it sends data to microsoft once. Probably your photo.
-everything you say is transferred to MS, it works even if you disable and remove and uninstall Cortana. Parts of Cortana are needed for the core of the OS to run. Confirmed by MS helpdesk. You can be identified by your voice anywhere near a microphone after they get enough data from you.
-Voice to text is transferred instantly
-voice is transferred every 15 min, 80MB of data
-after 15 minutes of your inactivity or when screensaver is on, network activity ramps up and everything else is being sent to MS
-blocking in hosts doesnt work, some IPs are hardcoded into their code and DLLs |
Wow
I wonder what the EU will have to say about this privacy-wise. They should ban this junk. |
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