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[lorcro2000]

I used to be an Opera die-hard. Then they became Chromepera and after that I just abandoned ship.

Firefox with extensions is a better Opera than the latest Opera...

[heretic]

[Koogle]

@lorcro2000 so have you seen what those mozillatards have done with firefox30

firefox with extentions is better than anything, its just a shame its being turned into a pile of crap by idiots who just want to lobotomize it and make it look and work like that other dumbed down chrome garbage.

[spectra9]

Opera is going south with the release of its Chrome wannabe. Opera 12 is an excellent browser, memory efficient and fast. Now it's just as bloated as Chrome but with much less features, very sad.

Firefox is also going south with its Australis incarnation.

Why are these developers keep turning a perfectly good browser into abominations like these? They all seem to have a burning desire to be like Chrome.

Thankfully, Firefox is open source, so I'll stick with Cyberfox/Palemoon for as long as I can, hopefully there remains some sane developers in this world.

[lorcro2000]

[Tom]

Been using Firefox for ages. I don't mind the new gui stuff, it's kinda a nice change. Firefox with the right addons is great and secure. I don't use Chrome unless I have too but Opera... yuck. Tried it a few times and thought, man was a POS.

[gx-x]

what do you people find wrong with new firefox? I used to use extensions to hide menu bar. I mean seriously, ~25px of height to hold ONE button? Another 25px to tell me that I am looking at Firefox?(title bar) They just finally realized that themselves and fixed it.

@heretic:

"Jelena Jankovic - Madrid Open vine is just wonderful - Literally just turned TV on and JJ is doing this..LOL. Well, whatever that sound is."

She is saying "Ne" , literal translation would be "Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"

[Koogle]

". I mean seriously, ~25px of height to hold ONE button"

That 25px to hold ONE button for you..

is for me to hold that ONE button + menu bar (with a custombutton that toggles it on/off) + bookmark menu bar with css styling to remove the bookmark names, so that it is just a bar of icon shortcuts and named dropdown bookmark menus.

Really vast improvement over the vanilla shite they package the browser in, if those shitting retards at mozzilatard corp actually sacked the retards who refere to themselves as designers and instead got proper gui experts in to make powerful customizing into something more user friendly like actually fking adding options to customize this stuff, instead of removing gui options and forcing people to actually dig into using extensions and css


instead they copy chrome stupid fking menu icon, dump it on the right side of the browser (total disregard to vast majority users who are so used to application menus being on the topright side) and make extra large fking icons out of the same stupid fking buttons.

honeslty these retarded asshats live in a world of there own down a shiticon valley.


I used to miss the title bar, but with ff3.5 the css improvement really made firefox gui great for customization.

the browser really is going down the toilet if stuff like userscripts, stylish, custom buttons broke

already plenty of good addons for firefox have started breaking down and the developers losing interest in having to fix it with ever stupid fking mozilla update. Ones like Downloader Manager Tweak https://addons.cdn.mozilla.net/img/uploads/previews/full/2/2984.png?modified=1331247702 which is a huge improvement over the existing shity download manager (customized with css and its even better looking and functional than the original)


shame really.. but yeh

"Opera took the entire browser and threw it away to start over on top of Chromium, and even now when they hit version 21 (or 22 in testing) it's a shadow of its old self. At least Aurora 31 still takes addons and acts mostly like Firefox..."

at least with Firefox they atleast maintain some concept of there web browsers power coming from its backlog of extensions that still mostly work through each update.

I could use the newer austragarbage gui firefox but really the time to redo the look and setup I have just ain't worth it (the fact an extension (classicthemerestorer) had to come out just remove and fix it is a joke, but extension developers willing to do that everytime mozilla make more stupid changes is going to push the patience of its most longterm fans and developers away from making other more useful extensions)

also that new chromified menubar is just so fking bad its a joke and an insult to anyone who doesn't need mega large fking icons to move about (even though I hardly ever use a menubar) the fact it exists and has replaced what was a perfectly menu system with 32x icons is a joke. Just another sign of the touchscreen tards have been screwing around,lets take our leading desktop browser and dumb it down like our shitty android browser.

[gx-x]

Koogle, you can enable that bar in FF 29, rmb on empty space in tab bar and presto, all your bars are back if you want them.

[Koogle]

I know you can still get the bookmark bar there, point is the entire gui is mess now with the changes some plugins that work but don't fit in anymore, when i updated my existing setup most the stylish css id/classes need to be redone and and a few other plugins have just fallen apart with the gui changes like personal titlebar and a few others, nothing that can't be fixed eventually but i can't be bothered doing it, and classicthemerestorer brings in its own changes which need styling to fit in, just waiting on plugins to update aswel really.

why bother doing the personal updates when 29 brings nothing but a dogshit gui, its easier to just stay with 28 until they actually put out an update that has worthwhile features/engine improvements that are worth upgrading to

[Tom]

I can move most all icons minus the menu button and I'll bet it's done like that to be consistent with other devices, mobile/tablet. It would be nice though to move it all onto one side as per your preference. I like the new layout overall, it's cleaner and more screen for viewing pages.

[Koogle]

Current...




What it looks like in FF29,



Missing icons, stylish css messed up, and a few extensions that don't work anymore.

And it only looks like that was after having to install another addon bar extension just to bring the addon bar back so that all the icons weren't sitting on the top addressbar, because some fukheads at moztardcorp have decided a status bar is not required. Despite implementing a statusbar many years ago, letting addon developers utilize it, then deciding to fuk them around again, and remove the statusbar in replace of an inferior crap addon bar that needed another extension just to bring it back to how a status bar used to work, and finally now removing the addon bar aswel.

The option for tabs below the addressbar is not no longer a gui option to select, because again some fucking retard thinks that tabs above the addressbar is better, fking clueless morons everything is upside down in there lalaland. Having tabbar above the addressbar, and whatever bar is below that just doesn't make any fking sense.. Its like the windows form tabs being deigned by a fking retard who thinks the content corresponding to that tab should be even further away from the tab control. The design language of such a change is just stupid.

And removing the status/addon bar saves hardly anything compared to what it provides. I have the addon bar for many things, the bottom right are commonly used plugins, page control etc, the right side is both for status feedback on page urls, pageloading status, and with [ctrl+f](toggle) an inpage search bar appears there.. very compact and pretty neat.

Compared to all the shitty ass defaults you can't get no better, but fuk heads at mozilla think by removing gui/options makes it better (and there idea of what customizability is a god damned joke), I can only guess that they are in actual fact they are just to damn fucking lazy and stupid to actually utilize a gui, provide useful features, and users with customizing options. And most importantly show the fking monkey noobs how to use such features in browser (when you startup ff29 for the first time it has some stupid ass arrow pointing out its joke of a new menubar (that has even less menu options than the old one just really fking oversized icons, god knows how the fking noobs will figure out where there old menubar and page options have disappeared to. I'd imagine most there targeted noob audience will just stick with chrome spyware shite anyway.

It's too easy to just make shit dumbed software and copy other useful fuck companies like google garbage that do the same hoping that the masses will like this dumbed down simpleton software that has only one advantage, it startup time LOADS really fast for the those with attention span of a fking ant.



Meanwhile my browser not only loads fast it actually has powerfeatures and looks nice. Its not really that hard to achieve and yet here have one of the worst fking updates to firefox I have ever seen.

So much stuff is broken in terms of the gui, with getting it back to how I had it. It's almost like I shouldn't bother and I won't until they put out a version worth with improvements worth the upgrading hassles.

And certainly not looking forward to more windowed dialogs like option screens, bookmark libraries etc being redesigned into to stupid page tabs (like the downloads list, etc google shity crhome option screen) its just fking dumb and less useful as you are stuck with having an browser frame and tab being used when most the controls and options provided are fine utilize a smaller screenspace within a windowed dialog that can be moved around. It only makes sense are shitty smartphone screens where small screenspace and no windowed layouts exist, hardly great for deskstop environments with large screenspace, movable windows and great for multitasking.

[gx-x]

well i dont have thank kind of problems



btw that orange FF button in version before 29 will open menu list, no need to have all that in two places, anyway, nhf koogle but your browser is too clogged and bloated for my taste.

I very much appreciate the new "menu" icon that has all menus and things that most of us need in there no need to go to menu, then options, then add-ons for instance, just press new button and select addons. Also, it's customizable (not that I need that). Oh and last version of firefox had YT crash for me when I mess with dahsboard (notifications, conversations etc), 29 works fine, so big + from me for that.

[Koogle]

but thats just it, there new menu doesn't actually have all the menus and options in there.. its got even less in it. just oversized icon shit