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[ggrobot]

Neowin gets a look at Razer\'s Project Fiona: It has an Intel i7 processor, a touch screen, and is running a standard version of Windows - it\'s basically a standard PC in a non-standard package. The prototype looks large, but is actually very easy to hold and the controllers on either side are easy to use.

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[Tom]

$1000+ hahahahahahaaha. NEXT.

[Baconnaise]

CPU = 80-100
Mobo = 50-100
Ram 8GB = 30-50
Monitor = 100.00
Video = 50-100.00
Keyboard = 10-20
Mouse = 10-30
Gamepad = 10-30
Speakers/headset = 10-100
PSU = 30-50
Case = 30-100

You can spend less than five hundred bucks and play just about any title for PC maxed out. You can play any console and virtual console games at your leisure. You can get even cheaper or upgrade certain parts depending on what deals you run across.

Newegg had a core i3 setup case mobo cpu 4GB of ram for under three hundred this week that would do plenty fine. Throw in a cheap 50-60 radeon card and you can play most games with ease. It was a good deal because it cost slightly more than a core i5 2500k cpu alone.

The problem with the Razer is battery. The setup they have can't last that long on battery and if you're truly a gamer and not casual you'll be plugged into a wall more than half the time.

A cool grand can get you a halfway decent laptop and years ago when the turions were new I picked up a four or five hundred dollar laptop for the wife that still runs today. Imagine what you can get now and with a cool 1k.

[Csimbi]

I don't think you would pull this out from the bag unless you had at least an hour to play.
If you have an hour, I am fairly sure you'll be more or less stationary - so sitting next to a plug is not an issue. The issue could be the amount of plugs; typically there are only a few - the ability to share the charger (multiple devices simultaneously) would be a nice feat.
The biggest benefit is the ability to be mobile - taking all you games, saved games and everything with you.
The second biggest benefit could be the ability to set up a multiplayer game on the spot via ad-hoc networks via WiFi (challenge someone on the spot, play in airplanes, trains with people, etc).
Of course, this assumes that this will truly perform better than the average laptop (or else it's not worth it).

[Tom]

Seriously Baconnaise, you are daft. How many times we been through it that these parts you specify is total load of shit. Ya if you want to buy a total piece of shit PC, yes, we know you can build it with the shittiest parts in the world but to play games and actually enjoy them is a different story. A good decent PC that you wont have to continually upgrade will cost you easy $1,000. This tab however looks like shit and offers nothing that interests me. I can go buy a fucking ipad that can play lots of shit and do a lot other things for half the price. Guy said nothing about the cpu, the ram, the video card or how many games are supported on it. For fuck sakes the interview sucks so bad he didn't even say the resolution. Overall, stupid interview and stupid product.

[gx-x]

Tom, you are wrong about $1000PC. There is no need for that. Games stayed back in 2008/9 so the hardware from those years (hi-end or middle to hi-end) is sufficient. I run core2duo, 4gigs of ram on a p45 DFI mobo using gtx460 1gb and I game in 1920x1080. Everything except Anno 2070 is working like a charm. I actually downgraded my PC in past 2 years, went from 5850 back to gtx260, sold my creative x-fi sound card as it served no purpose and so on. Now I did get a gtx460 but that's only because I got it as an replacement for gtx260 that broke down.

PS. You are talking about decent gaming PC, and I stand by what I wrote above, I just wanted to say that tablet in the video is NOT for decent gaming. It's a crutch for gaming... You can't calculate ~400$ monitor into PC to be able to compare it to that screen on the tablet. Actually I have no idea why are you two guys comparing desktop PC to a mobile device anyway...

[Bert]

The interview compared PC gaming and the razor however you're right gx-x,
traditional PC gaming and anything else is not the same.

PC gaming is about the big monitor a foot or two from your face, the preciseness of the mouse and keyboard control, being able to play hours on end in that position, cold beer at the right of the monitor, bowl of chips beside that. Games are not games, they're sports, ultimate focus, world take-over-time.

The console is about lying on the couch with the control in your hands, the bowl of chips balanced on your chest, the big screen TV or projector, the beers on the floor at arms reach, its not like the preciseness of the PC, is about being able to game on the couch (or sofa to the americans) in any position. The dog, cat, or significant other may dominate the other side of the couch/sofa/chesterfield.

Tablets and these things are mobile, you may not game like that for hours on end, nice for the cottage or the airport, or where your console/PC are thousands of kilometers away.

Maybe in hardware, there are similarities, but socially and how the game is played, its another different platform.

[psolord]

To the dimwit above (you know who I am referring to) here are some performance vids I made off of a friend's PC I built, that cost less than 500 with brand new parts.

DIRT 3 BENCHMARK DX11 HIGH 1280X720 GT 440 1GB @900MHz CORE i3-2100 - YouTube

F1 2011 BENCHMARK DX11 HIGH 1280X720 GT 440 1GB @900MHz CORE i3-2100 - YouTube

RESIDENT EVIL V BENCHMARK DX10 1280X720 GT 440 1GB @900MHz CORE i3-2100 - YouTube

CRYSIS BENCHMARK DX10 HIGH 1280X720 GT 440 1GB @900MHz CORE i3-2100 - YouTube

FLAT OUT 2 1920X1080 GT 440 1GB @900MHz CORE i3-2100 - YouTube

CALL OF DUTY BLACK OPS 1280X720 GT 440 1GB @900MHz CORE i3-2100 - YouTube

CALL OF DUTY MODERN WARFARE 2 1280X720 GT 440 1GB @900MHz CORE i3-2100 - YouTube

PORTAL 2 1920X1080 GT 440 1GB @900MHz CORE i3-2100 - YouTube

CALL OF JUAREZ BENCHMARK DX10 1280X720 GT 440 1GB @900MHz CORE i3-2100 - YouTube

STONE GIANT 1280X720 GT 440 1GB @900MHz CORE i3-2100 - YouTube

STREET FIGHTER IV BENCHMARK 1920X1080 GT 440 1GB @900MHz CORE i3-2100 - YouTube

Most are 720P yes, but still with much better details than any console could do. With an extra 30, the same system could be equipped with a 5750 and run the above apps at 1080P.

So cut the crap and focus on reality.

The good part is that a buyer always has the option to go for a 1000$ rig which will give him a much better experience. The problem is that with consoles, you just don't have choice. End of story.

[gx-x]

[Baconnaise]

I picked up a gtx460 for another comp around 110 a year or two ago (rebate). Saw the same deal only for 100 this time (no rebate). I built two extra comps for the kids on phenom 965 blacks which had unlockable cores. These are 3.3 stock dual core. Cheap Asus board is about 30-50 now still I wager and another 30 for 8GB of ram. The 965's were about 89 bucks when I purchased them. Anyways I forget which radeon I threw in one of them 5570 or something. It was 59 bucks and handles all the indie games roblox league of legends and more. The card can seriously play games for sixty bucks. The other kid comp has a 460 in it as the oldest two are picky about lag .

[gx-x]

[Csimbi]

Plus, you're electricity bill will be a bit higher

[gx-x]

[Tom]

[Csimbi]

Can that tables do better then 720p?