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ggrobot
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 Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:57 am Post subject: Project Zomboid Code Theft [31782] |
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Two laptops with the current builds of Project Zomboid were stolen from the home of the lead developer of The Indie Stone\'s zombie game. These statements were apparently followed by some drunken twitter ranting, which provoked an apology on Lemmy\'s Blog and the apparent deletion of Lemmy\'s Twitter account.
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Tom
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Guarantee you in was an inside job. All sounds really fishy and very thorough. When I was working on a team in the Make Something Unreal contest I was sure our code was stolen or someone was leaking it to other competitors. You know, all of sudden Joe mod has the exact same things as yours. Then you would see maps in these mods that look a hell of a lot like your own. The game finally got a Alpha complete, lead developer took off, gave me 50% of code rights, took winnings from Contest and I've never spoken to him since. He took off just when I amassed a few more "work for free" developers. Game development sucks and I feel for this guy, but you ALWAYS make backups, ALWAYS. That shame lies with him and himself.
The funny thing was is that some of the developers I recruited left without ever staying in contact and some went to competitor mods. I quit modding and stuck with mapping for games ever since. F the dishonest assholes out there who rip off your stuff. Befriending and backstabbing. Working for free and for your community for free is a thankless job and something I couldn't get into unless I was earning a salary doing it.
Anyhow, sucks to be this guy. |
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Ozieo
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| Someone apparently doesn't like zombie games, I fully support him, these games are a waste of pixels. |
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Csimbi
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| Quote: | | HOWEVER, the one thing I will not apologise for is the general sentiment of some of those posts. It felt oddly akin to Amy Winehouse’s death and some of the reactions I read on twitter: ‘She did this to herself, I feel no sympathy’ REALLY? |
Really? Yes, really. We pay for the recuperation for all drug, alcohol and whatnot addicts whenever they feel the need to be high. You can't act responsibly. Must be a father issue - in most cases, it is.
You want me to feel sympathy? I feel sympathy. I feel sympathetic with those who spoke before me on you being incompetent. The game is better off without you.
I am sure it was not your choice, rather, your asked to leave were let go...
BTW. There is no need to apologize. This is what you are - an apology won't change that. You need to grow up, learn what it means to take charge and be responsible. That would help.
You remind me very much of one of my own colleagues. He likes to be around when it's all fun, but when there's hard work to do, or there's some heat from the management, he is the first to jump ship. |
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Koogle
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| Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Really? Yes, really. We pay for the recuperation for all drug, alcohol and whatnot addicts whenever they feel the need to be high. You can't act responsibly. Must be a father issue - in most cases, it is. |
And yet if you only knew that vast majority of that tax money goes to funding the actual problems causers... ie the addicted tyrants who run rule your government, local establishments for their institutionalized crackpots and sychophant salaried idiots.
You might want to look into exactly where you money goes then, because if you think its going to ACTUALLY helping drug, alcohol and whatnot addicts then you sorely mistaken. You can't give money to salaried jobworths and think they are going to help addicts. It goes towards funding corporate criminal GOV protected policy parasites and the nanny state socialist fiddlers who don't actually do jack shit other than work to protect their and their bosses corrupt interests at the expense of those defined as addicts/criminals etc ..who often get addicted because of other problems in their lives that are in a round about way caused by such a society of ignorant, cowardice and morally corrupt fools, that bow over to lying officialdom scum.
Those who profess this system very much like it that way, so that people are divided instead of understanding and having compassion for the differences of others. At most taxed money that gets siphoned off to such services you think are doing a something good is nothing more than a patch designed to prevent onlooking interferes from putting time to actually fucking investigate things themselves and wanting the root problem fixed. Also you can't have responsible people when they are abused and treated as children by those who rule governments with hypocrite legal bullshit, stupid educational polices and sick social services, etc because they are the root problem causers along with law society, and are run by none other than criminal minded psychopathic child like adult retard bullies protecting their rackets.
| Quote: | | Even if someone makes a mistake you can’t find it in your hearts to have a shred of sympathy? I find that distressing, and as someone capable of feeling sympathy for most people who feel bad regardless of the circumstances, I despair, and that amongst the hundreds of vicious emails, tweets and reddit comments (as well as drink), as well as the violation of my home and theft of property and what looked like the destruction of my career and passion, was what started that tyrade on twitter. |
Sad, stupid, apathetic and compassion less people indeed who makes such putrid hating comments (or to rulers; good useful ignorant idiots,) the collective degenerates of a morality deprived society that worships false lying scumbags and cheers on the downfall of those who fallen to the traps and have become victims.
| Quote: | | Game development sucks and I feel for this guy, but you ALWAYS make backups, ALWAYS. That shame lies with him and himself. |
Feel sorry for him aswel, and I agree always make offsite backups.. you just never know. |
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Majnun
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If they tested the members of your government as they came to work everyday you better believe drug use would be looked at differently.
You think those morons aren't on coke or at least drunk? You're high. |
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gx-x
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what does Amy Winehouse’s death has to do with this guy's tragic accident + incompetence? Sure, I can have sympathy for this developer on accounts of being robbed, but Amy Winehouse’s death is not remotely close to this case. She DID do it to her self, she had money, opportunity and the means, she herself misused them all on numerous occasions, playing a dare-devil or whatever. She overdosed, period. She made a mistake? Sure, repeatedly, so did Hitler. Should I have sympathy for him too? I mean, geez, a man made a mistake...get over it, he had troublesome childhood and a hard time in prison, show some compassion duh 
on the other note: another zombie game? Rly? I would be more sorry for my two laptops then for a game that wouldn't net the sole value of equipment that was used to make it. |
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Csimbi
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| Amen. |
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Koogle
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@gx-x clearly no compassion, plenty of prejudice though. Do you even know why Amy drunk and did drugs? if you did you might have a clue about what lead upto her early death. A broken heart and the attention of care pretending shit heads btw.
And as for this game developer making the point about Amy in the first place was to bring up the amount of apethetic/jealous idiots who make hateful comments about others without an ounce of intelligence and understanding of why things happen. They live and make up a society of socially engineered stupidity by design, so they have zero compassion and only a morality that is based on consumption of controlled media, and officialdom scum that make up the rules & laws by which they cower to or support out of state brainwashing (you can insert all war on [agendas] (that benefit the corporate policy parasites and lording law society criminals and the quackery cohorts).. and that leads back to Amy Whinehouse because celebrities are builtup, followed, scrutinized and then sold out, drugs come easy when you start showing up on the radar of fame, its escapism from the trap they find themselves in with a very sick industry & society. That has agenda's to push in being the controllers of others and having others believe the asinine bullshit they peddle out to the easily manipulated who follow it without single ounce of experience to question and know what is twisted bullshit.
And those who feel better about themselves when the worst happens to others.. oh yes the fucking cowards who don't pay fuck zip all attention to the root problem causing twisted fascists and care pretending liars who benefit -cui bono?. I guess its fitting that the on lookers ignore their own future predicament, when its tied to all that happens in the present. Pay more attention.
| Quote: | | on the other note: another zombie game? Rly? I would be more sorry for my two laptops then for a game that wouldn't net the sole value of equipment that was used to make it. |
Sad person you are, creativity is far more valuable a thing to this world than shit heads who just use and want tools to fuck up others people lives because they have fuck all creativity, only the ability to ride off on others or follow orders like complete jobworth idiots. |
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gx-x
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I bet I have more problems than Amy, I bet every second person does, so no, I don't give a fuck. I couldn't do drugs even if I wanted to because they are too fuckin expensive even if I wanted to kill my self with them, which I don't.
I feel sorry for everyone that has some problems which aren't caused by themselves, but excuse me, some of us have to deal with reality and cannot afford to sell 500.000$ worth of tickets and show up drunk and high (read: low).
No, I don't have sympathy for that kind of shit. She obviously couldn't "get real" and I don't see why she would be treated in any special way. She overdosed, like any other junkie. Period. Or perhaps do you want to tell me that her problems are/were more important than anyone else's so she has excuse to do what she did for years?. It's always typical shit, (well, not to them but to outsiders) get butloads of money on some stupid songs, behave irrationally, get into trouble, create sorrow, overdose.
There are those with problems that managed not to die from drugs, like Whitney Houston, get their shit together and move on.
what about most hobos that lost their homes, lost their families one way or the other and live in streets, beg for money and eat of dumpsters? Do you REALLY think that problems of someone like Amy can possibly be WORSE and worthy of her lifestyle and an excuse for her? I didn't think so.
As for zombie game - I feel sorry for you if you think anything zombie related can be called creative these days. Seriously. L4D is only good in MP, and if you don't like zombies or MP game has nothing to offer. I think that franchise had enough with resident evil series and other games predating 2005. But hey, we might have different opinions on stuff and it's ok. You go play zombie games if you like, I sure won't, not that you or I give a crap. |
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