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 Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:03 pm Post subject: id on RAGE PC Controls [31107] |
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Speaking to PC Gamer behind closed doors at E3 2011, id’s Tim Willits has described how the Id team have resurrected classic PC control systems, rather than limiting the options available to a player for the console controllers. \'The PC’s going to be an awesome platform for it. There are a lot of buttons.\' fo
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If I am not mistaken - "Brink" runs on id tech 5. If so, my interest in "RAGE" = 0
I do not have a slightest intention in buying a 250$ CPU, 140$ mb, 100$ 6gb ram and a 300$ GPU to run something that works on 250$ xbox or 350$ ps3.
IF "Brink" uses id tech 5 and IF they optimize it for "RAGE" then I MIGHT buy the game...but anyways, people are gonna buy it so it doesn't really matter what I think or do. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Well, you are mistaken - Brink runs on IDtech 4.... so, go buy new PC and play the fakin game!
And one more thing to point out! Use your brain!
The devs that made Brink have nothing to do with ID....except they use their engine! That doesnt make the engine bad, or ID bad, or RAGE bad!!!
That only makes the devs, Splash Damage, a lazy ass loosers that made one big piece of shiet! |
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Crysis 2 runs fine on my machine with almost everything on very high, thus, I decided that my machine is adequate for games. It can deliver decent fps and excellent graphics.
If game does not run well on my PC, and doesn't look better than crysis series, then the game is not coded well. Again, I have zero interest in investing into bad and/or shoddy coding.
PS. thanks for the info on "Brink". Hope remains for "Rage" and that is good news  |
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Don't know much about Brink, but it is not using same engine as Rage. I don't think anyone can use the engine right now.
I find their comment about number of guns weak. What is this some "try to deflate Duke Nukem" talk? Glad it supports more guns but really not any such motivator to buy the game. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| gx-x wrote: | Crysis 2 runs fine on my machine with almost everything on very high, thus, I decided that my machine is adequate for games. It can deliver decent fps and excellent graphics.
If game does not run well on my PC, and doesn't look better than crysis series, then the game is not coded well. Again, I have zero interest in investing into bad and/or shoddy coding.
PS. thanks for the info on "Brink". Hope remains for "Rage" and that is good news |
Well, Carmak sayd it many times that Rage is running on DX9, because they do all the stuff with DX9 that 10 and 11 can do, and they dont need to invest on tesselation and pointless stuff like that for now.
The engine and game are optimized for consoles so you wont need expensive PC to run it, but IDtech uses unique technique for textures for example, and the world looks really impressive with non tiling textures and awesome detail, light and so on...
I love the part that they bring 1-9 keys with weapons, i cant remember the last game i played and used those
Btw, you can see from the gameplay that the textures are pretty low rez. That shows the optimization for consoles. I hope, and im pretty shure, that for PC the textures will be a lot more hi rez |
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Tom
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| tride wrote: |
I love the part that they bring 1-9 keys with weapons, i cant remember the last game i played and used those |
Lots of games use more than 2 weapons. I'm not going to list them I got better things to do. |
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tride
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You gonna troll in other threads ???
Who gives a shit about your opinion, read what other people write and think ffs...... i sayd that i dont remember the last one i played, ffs..... i dont play every game out there, like you....pointless human being |
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Well, its not common have a big amount of weapons this times. Most games have 2 o 3. I'm really disapointed about DNF not having the classic 10 to 12 weapons. That and the stupid auto regen instead to medkits. Its supposed to be an old-school FPS.
| gx-x wrote: | | I do not have a slightest intention in buying a 250$ CPU, 140$ mb, 100$ 6gb ram and a 300$ GPU to run something that works on 250$ xbox or 350$ ps3. |
And play actually worst than a 250-350 PC upgrade or a lot less. Last week I was playing MK and LANoire in PS3 and looks like shit. No filters what so ever (AA and AF), horrible textures, horrible pop-ups objects in right in front of you, inexistent LOD and distance drawing. Man, it looks worst than many PC games from around 2004.
Cheapy old technology and ridiculous controls for and FPS, that's what you get for 250-350 bucks. If you ask me, is way to expensive for the lame experience.
Oh, and a $ 150 X6 CPU, $ 250 560Ti and $ 40 4GB will do the trick and look waaaaayyyyy to better. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| gx-x wrote: | If I am not mistaken - "Brink" runs on id tech 5. If so, my interest in "RAGE" = 0
I do not have a slightest intention in buying a 250$ CPU, 140$ mb, 100$ 6gb ram and a 300$ GPU to run something that works on 250$ xbox or 350$ ps3.
IF "Brink" uses id tech 5 and IF they optimize it for "RAGE" then I MIGHT buy the game...but anyways, people are gonna buy it so it doesn't really matter what I think or do. |
Well, Merchants of Brooklyn was running on Cry Engine 2 and you remember how that turned out.
A game engine does not make a game by itself!  |
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| tride wrote: | | Well, Carmak sayd it many times that Rage is running on DX9, because they do all the stuff with DX9 that 10 and 11 can do, and they dont need to invest on tesselation and pointless stuff like that for now. |
Actually the engine is OpenGL, not Direct3D, so its imposible to be DX8, 9, 10 or 11. Carmack says that the actual version of OpenGL is comparable to DX9 so those without rendering knowledge understad the idTech5 rendering capabilities. OGL is better in some areas and DX in another ones. idTech5 is OpenGL, OpenCL (a couple of times they talk about some DX11 features running trought this) and OpenAL. It only uses DX libraries for compatibility and performance reasons. The engine is Mac, Linux, Windows, 360 and PS3 compatible. |
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Tom
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| tride wrote: | You gonna troll in other threads ???
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Told you once I told you a bunch of times. Shutup moron. You got ADD or something?
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Actually the engine is OpenGL, not Direct3D, so its imposible to be DX8, 9, 10 or 11. Carmack says that the actual version of OpenGL is comparable to DX9 so those without rendering knowledge understad the idTech5 rendering capabilities. OGL is better in some areas and DX in another ones. idTech5 is OpenGL, OpenCL (a couple of times they talk about some DX11 features running trought this) and OpenAL. It only uses DX libraries for compatibility and performance reasons. The engine is Mac, Linux, Windows, 360 and PS3 compatible. |
Yes, your poorly reworded press release/interview with Carmack is pretty accurate. Good job. |
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| Quote: | | The PC is going to be an awesome platform for it. There are a lot of buttons |
Good job Id software, this ain't trolling PC gamers at all is it now.
| Quote: | | Rage doesn’t follow the trend for letting you only carry two weapons at once. Instead, you can carry all your weapons at all times, and they’re mapped to the traditional number keys. |
See I don't find this an improvement( everything upwards of <num> 4 barely every gets used in a game) I think its ID software lazyness... because realistically a minimal weapon selection fits (that you can mod and upgrade and collect more ammo through shops etc) would better for this sort of game, where you can define your characters playstyle.. Add stash points or ways of storing your weapons and ammo etc... but no.. just carry everything old skool.. I don't see how they can market that as a plus point anyway. |
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| Tom wrote: | | Yes, your poorly reworded press release/interview with Carmack is pretty accurate. Good job. |
Better than be a happy ignorant troll.
| Koogle wrote: | | See I don't find this an improvement( everything upwards of <num> 4 barely every gets used in a game) |
With the macros, the keys around WASD and the extra mouse buttons I get a lot of guns configured since... ever. Actually the numeric setup is hard and uncomfortable to reach. Quake, Unreal, Doom. If you find an über weapon with poor ammo capacity for heavy rain moments is great that it sits in the back while you are using a shotgun, chaingun, machine gun, pistol, plasma gun, grenade launcher or rpg. Obviously for this kind of FPS. In a BF or COD doesnt have any sense. |
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| Renton wrote: | | Tom wrote: | | Yes, your poorly reworded press release/interview with Carmack is pretty accurate. Good job. |
Better than be a happy ignorant troll.
| Koogle wrote: | | See I don't find this an improvement( everything upwards of <num> 4 barely every gets used in a game) |
With the macros, the keys around WASD and the extra mouse buttons I get a lot of guns configured since... ever. Actually the numeric setup is hard and uncomfortable to reach. Quake, Unreal, Doom. If you find an über weapon with poor ammo capacity for heavy rain moments is great that it sits in the back while you are using a shotgun, chaingun, machine gun, pistol, plasma gun, grenade launcher or rpg. Obviously for this kind of FPS. In a BF or COD doesnt have any sense. |
Quite right. |
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