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ggrobot
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 Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:46 pm Post subject: Blizzard taking StarCraft II hackers to court [29831] |
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In order to protect the real-time strategy hit StarCraft II, developer Blizzard is going beyond just banning hackers. Blizzard has lawyered-up and is preparing to sue three notorious hackers known as \'Permaphrost,\' \'Cranix,\' and \'Linuxawesome.\' ants already had developed, marketed, and distributed to the publ
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Tom
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh man this is getting better by the day. I wish more developers got off their ass like Blizzard and did something to these a__holes that ruin gaming on PC. Even though I hate Blizzard I admire their efforts. I hope these guys get so raped in court. |
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raven99
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Tom wrote: | | Oh man this is getting better by the day. I wish more developers got off their ass like Blizzard and did something to these a__holes that ruin gaming on PC. Even though I hate Blizzard I admire their efforts. I hope these guys get so raped in court. |
For once I agree.
The only thing these useless hackers and pirates deserve is a life behind bars. These types of people should have there rights to own anything resembling a PC taken away from them period. There criminals and they need to be monitored on a daily basis like any other criminal. |
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Genoism
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While I think what blizzard is doing is right, I also think that putting someone behind bars for this is kind of silly. It doesn't truly do irreparable harm to the game. Every new patch breaks the hacks. The hackers could just give the source code to blizzard and they could patch it up.
The likelyhood of anyone quitting the game over a few other people hacking is totally BS(Provided that blizzard continually goes to ban cheaters regularly). Hackers will eventually stop, people quitting over hackers? Not likely. |
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Koogle
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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"i.e. those who purchase 'limited licenses' 
What a fucking douche bag company of scumtards. |
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Tom
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Genoism wrote: | While I think what blizzard is doing is right, I also think that putting someone behind bars for this is kind of silly. It doesn't truly do irreparable harm to the game. Every new patch breaks the hacks. The hackers could just give the source code to blizzard and they could patch it up.
The likelyhood of anyone quitting the game over a few other people hacking is totally BS(Provided that blizzard continually goes to ban cheaters regularly). Hackers will eventually stop, people quitting over hackers? Not likely. |
I don't think it's silly in the least. It costs the company plenty of money in support to fix what they break and to block what they could potentially break (part of why each patch breaks hacks). Then these asses are profitting off of their losses? IMO and experience, there are a lot of people who quit or pass up on games that harvest cheaters. I don't see the point of a EULA if you will just let people blatantly do what they want. Take a look at a lot of the FPS on PC. What a disaster. |
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Csimbi
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LOL
If you make money from selling hacks, that's pretty bad, I have to agree...
If you pay for those, you are probably a bigger idiot than Blizzard.
| Quote: | | Defendants already had developed, marketed, and distributed to the public a variety of hacks and cheats designed to modify (and in fact destroy) the Starcraft II online game experience |
I think that there's a problem here.
Are these guys really attempting to destroy the "Starcraft II online game experience" on purpose?
If so, they are bad guys for sure.
If they're cheating - improving the gaming experience - , I guess Blizzard is the bad guy as I have said before.
In any case, the definition of "online game experience" is a slippery slope both ways... |
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Penetreitor
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:42 am Post subject: Force single player mode to have internet is DISCRIMINATE |
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| Maybe they could avoid to loose money if they stop waste effort in those USELESS protection schemas... |
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gx-x
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well Tom, I just hope you never drew a Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse or something like that since that is Disney property and you would be braking copyrights. I even more hope that if you did, you drew them according to Disney standards, otherwise you tempered with the standardized appearance and your jail sentence might be even longer. 
Damn, I hope some big company in USA manages to acquire rights over alphabet, limits the way you can write and type and charge you a cent for every written letter, and charge fines for misspelling words (written in EULA). Maybe then some of you would start to actually think 
anyway, does blizzard actually think that their EULA holds any merit outside of the US (and perhaps Canada)? Do they think that the authorities in Peru would give a fuck what Blizzard put in EULA? LOL They DEMAND something in EULA? Court in Los Angeles? wtf hahahaha Ok, sure, for US residents, but c'mon, there is no such thing as clicking "I accept" in International Law, or any other law for that matter, except of course the "advanced" laws of democratic, citizen caring US law. Hackers from US could just shotgun those pesky lawyers the second they step on their porch, claiming the rights of protecting ones life and private property XD |
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zarlin
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| put the EULA out side the box , that way you can say yes/no before you buy it , because after you bought it there is no return , either way i don't give a shit about that compagny |
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Tom
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| gx-x wrote: | well Tom, I just hope you never drew a Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse or something like that since that is Disney property and you would be braking copyrights. I even more hope that if you did, you drew them according to Disney standards, otherwise you tempered with the standardized appearance and your jail sentence might be even longer.
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Don't try and act smart gx-x there is absolutely no copyright that disallows you drawing Disney characters. There is however a copyright barring you from profiting from drawing Disney characters.
"Blizzard is accusing the trio of multiple counts of copyright infringement and is demanding damages and disgorgement of any profits reaped by the distribution and sale of the hacks. The company also accused the defendants of inducing others to infringe on their copyright, saying, "When users of the Hacks download, install, and use the Hacks, they copy StarCraft II copyrighted content into their computer's RAM in excess of the scope of their limited license, as set forth in the EULA and ToU, and create derivative works of StarCraft II."
Read it again fella and this time understand what you are reading before making garbage examples. You clearly miss the point.  |
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gx-x
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I wasn't trying to make a point regarding that exact "news" quote, but point in general about "intellectual" rights, eulas etc.
Did those who cheated in single player SC2 make profit? No. But still they were "just" banned. I guess they were lucky for not being sued and dragged to court in Los Angeles and asked to pay tribute, sorry, I meant penalties, penalties for ruining the intended gameplay experience, thus creating damages to blizzard
If blizzard is trying to scare people away from their products - they are doing one heck of a job. I am impressed by all their "by the power of the Greyskull (EULA) - I have the power!" actions, really, I am.
cheers o/
btw. No, I do not support people who make profit from hacks or any type of piracy. In this case, if caught, these guys should answer for that. But demanding money from them is stupid. If they had money they wouldn't waste time on making hacks I suppose. |
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Tom
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Yep lucky not to get sued since they are using modified files which is against the EULA and ToU. Ban to me in the case of a user is sufficient.
I think Blizzard is doing the right thing, I am 100% on their side. Ironically my SC II game playing has gone up since the bans.
| Quote: | | I am impressed by all their "by the power of the Greyskull (EULA) - I have the power!" actions, really, I am. |
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gx-x
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| Tom wrote: | Yep lucky not to get sued since they are using modified files which is against the EULA and ToU. Ban to me in the case of a user is sufficient.
I think Blizzard is doing the right thing, I am 100% on their side. Ironically my SC II game playing has gone up since the bans.
| Quote: | | I am impressed by all their "by the power of the Greyskull (EULA) - I have the power!" actions, really, I am. |
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right on! XD Nice to know that we are both old enough [sigh] to be able to understand all this pointless ranting 
“â€Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿ ̿’̿’̵͇̿̿з=(•̪â—)=ε/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ Ì¿ Ì¿Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿â€"
agreed there Tom
PS. If SC2 pickups on all of those SC1 micro gods, your playing is going to go way down, if you are not one of them, and I am not talking just about Koreans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbpCLqryN-Q
^^ reason why I do not play online strategy games on random servers |
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zarlin
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| wonder why they never did and never will do the ban thing on the gold/level spammers in another game they made...wonder why , because that is also cheating |
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