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[ggrobot]

TheSixthAxis has some quotes from Epic president Mike Capps published in Edge Magazine E215, now on newsstands (thanks BluesNews):

Speaking to Edge this month, Epic president Mike Capps opens up about piracy, and why “the money’s on console”. In a frank and open interview on Unreal 4, Gears of War and Bulletst

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[psolord]

Like there is no piracy on the XBOX, yeah right.

Go fuck yourself EPIC fail.

[Koogle]

I'm sorry EPIC failure, but the reason for most piracy = shit games not worth owning. Like UT3 and crap Gear ports etc not designed for the PC or with any thoughtful design process with hardcore PC gamers in mind.

And the reason for high profit margins on console = well just look at the majority of the audience, you could make a buck selling them anything so long as it utilized the gfx hardware and passed a basic number of gameplay elements.

"Like there is no piracy on the XBOX, yeah right. "

Well yes there is still that perceived problem(which like most pirates most likely wouldn't have bought the game either), but how dare consumers buy & sell pre-owned games that's just got to be stopped eh.

[nb411]

Of course there is still piracy on consoles, it's just a lot less than for PC. That makes it more attractive to them even though they still "lose sales to piracy" on console to some degree.

Most people who pirate are piss poor though so I don't buy the argument that killing piracy = equally proportional boost in sales. Maybe if it was really hard to pirate games on PC all the school and college kids with barely any income would save up over time and just buy one game that they really care about per year. I have noticed also that people who rip off lots of games spend about 5 minutes playing each one before moving on to the next one...

[PoliticalMaestro]

We can all see through smoke bellowing from Mikes anus, and his futile attempts to disguise curtailed finances, downsizing and other restructuring methods using piracy as a pretext for ceasing the development of PC titles.

Someone needs to remind Mike and Epic it was the PC which propelled him to fame. Yes it is cost effective to serve one master the lord of consoles. Whatever trick they use to lambaste the PC and inculpate piracy it will fail for the PC will prevail.

[Csimbi]

I agree with most comments above.

Smaller piracy rates on console are easy to explain: it's an already small and shrinking market - besides, noone really cares copying games because those aren't worth the price of the discs...

This guy is a director, so obviously he has no clue what he is talking about - same as most high-level managers. Or, maybe he's just high, smoking his last joints fast. He heard something somewhere, and he is trying to make himself look intelligent - but we all know that a good director does not speak in such a manner. I guess he does this in desparation before he's fired - due to the wrong decisions he's made. I am referring to the decision to go for the console. Why was this a wrong decision? Because he's put the company's money on it, (that's what he means by "It’s because the money's on console.") and console is a dying breed... Well, I guess there is no need to explain what this means.

Epic would do well to lay off this guy ASAP and hire someone who's up to speed - or it will be an epic fail soon...

[Tom]

I see a bunch of newbies in this thread who moan and complain but with absolute cluelessness. He's said nothing wrong. Csimbi, I don't know where you crawled out from but you should head back! I don't know if all of you are competing for moron of the year award, but if I were to say, you are all in a close tie.

PC is dead/dying and has been for a long time. Fucking accept it. It's literally pointless to go PC with anything, due to piracy and small numbers of player period. Most with a brain already moved to console because console is where all the big titles go. PC is not where the money is so why waste dev cycles on a platform anyone and everyone can get illegal copies? They tried protecting their ASSets and you all complained and whined because of it. Console is where it's at and it's been that way for a good many years. FFS even Duke Nukem would be going console before it went PC. If there would be another Prey it would be on console before it went on PC too, I know because they told me. It only makes absolute economical sense to design and prioritize for console as opposed to PC where games are more easily ripped and less sold.

I hold no grudges against Epic you make games in a market where you can make money not in a market where your games end up all over torrent sites and irc channels. So what if they started on PC. Be happy. At the time it made sense, it doesn't however make sense anymore. Don't expect any big blockbuster hits on PC anymore. This biggest blockbusters. Just not going to happen. MW2 was a blockbuster and it was consolized for PC. Go figure. How about those BC2 sales eh? You think PC owned in sales? No, it's dead last in terms of sales. Console outsells PC platform 10 to 1.

PC died a long time ago, it's just idiot's still left in the PC community that still don't get it.

Maybe you are in the stone-age people but on AVERAGE a console game vs a PC game is 4 to 1 in profit. Check any fucking chart you want. Console makes sense, PC doesn't.

[darknothing]

PIRACY IS KILLING PC GAMING!!!!

are you all blind cant you all see its nothing like it was 5 even 10 years ago?

what did epic say wrong, they said nothing wrong. are you guys that blind?
the only think keeping pc gaming alive right now is steam,D2D
in Canada we don't even have a pc gaming section at our gamestops. and if there is one im sure its very very small.

[eudolus]

yeah lets see how far your consoles will advance when the power of the constantly evolving pc isnt around to teach you how to walk. Consoles wouldnt be where they are today without the pc and the pc would be miles ahead if it wasnt held back from the shite development of lazy ass developers only going for the buck. The days of creating games from the desire and as a passion are dead ty again consoletards.


"Baaaaah" "Baaaaaah" come little ones back in your pen

[Tom]

[Sabot]

Lol last i looked GTA4 sold 15 million copies on console, when did the PC sell that many in a YEAR! lol
You can trade console games in and get, within two weeks, around 90% return.
Lets face it the average PC game is as long as that these days...
The PC game is a dead duck as soon as you've bought it; you can't trade it because of DRM,internet activation,STEAM etc and it's worthless to sell on.
Within a month or two it's bargain bin land! Check out Napoleon TW, it's already selling for a third of full price. What a loss.
Get your heads out your asses guys, i thought i was slow to smell the coffee 3 years ago; some of you are fossils in comparrison
All hail the dinosaur called the PC

[eudolus]

lets see.

Lack of user control
lack of 3rd party hardware
lack of aim
lack of proper dedicated servers for online play
lack a flexiblity to do anything other what is allowed by the company who makes the consoles(unless of course you go the illegal route and mod it)
increased price of games for a set resolution and settings that can never be changed
lack of mods
you see where this is going yet?

so tell me, other than the sheer amount of sheep that play on the consoles and the price of the console itself (not including all the accessories that must be purchased to equal the value that can come standard in most pc's, what more does the console provide, because the list is SOOO expansive.

When was the last time a game came out for the console that was able to constantly maintain a player count that didnt become stagnant or deprived of support or had servers shut down to force players to buy the new version of the game to play online that could last the test of time?

Alot of the PC community understands quality, and it shows in the piracy rate. If there is doubt that a game sucks people will pirate it, if they find out a game doesnt, they sell buy the masses. just look at bc2, it sold more than the ps3 and 360 versions combined just because they were desperate for something even slightly better than the shit P2P they were forced to use thanks to the porting of a CONSOLE GAME, and last i checked, the pc version looks and handles better faster load times etc. and is the SAME FUCKING GAME THE CONSOLES GOT. and the console version is still 10x better? hmm, i think you got your numbers mixed up.


So this is where i would end it, and this is where your waiting to comment on how much more expensive a PC is in comparison to consoles arent ya.

Have at it, because the PC community has proved your ignorance every time you bring up price, and guess what, you spend more on consoles than even the basic mid ranged PC setup, which is still more than 2x more powerful than a console. and guess what, we have a choice of quality YOU DONT, if we want the same quality as you, we pay little, less in fact than what your console costs, if we want slightly better we pay the same if not a lil more, but if we want alot, we can have alot, we can put the resolution to as high as monitors will allow if we have the money to waste on gfx cards, But thats the choices we have the choices you cant stand because you dont.

so go ahead im sure its a fuckin field day of ignorance for you.

Oh and btw


"BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"

and Stumpus, thats why there are fewer ignorant players on the pc because we have a tendancy to try before we buy, not all of us need to taste shit to realize its shit, we can usually tell by the look and smell, and gta4 was a nuke of shit

[Csimbi]

[Tom]

Nope I got no more to say really since you proved my comments right, especially the 'Newbies are only left on PC'. Developers have already dopped PC like a sack of shit but I guess you are too blind to notice. Maybe when you are down to 1 exclusive title a year on PC it might register. But I doubt it. Instead you keep coming back and moaning as soon as another developer says fuck off to PC platform.

[Ozieo]

Huh ? Piracy ?????

So what about all those great expensive copy protections ????