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ggrobot
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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: Nvidia's GeForce 470 & 480 GPUs Reviewed [28750] |
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The first reviews of Nvidia\'s
oft-delayed Fermi video cards are finally here! The GeForce GTX 480 leads the group and is billed as the \'fastest
GPU in the world:\' it has 480 visual processing cores, 16 geometry
units and four raster units that combined should beat the ATI Radeon HD
5800 series
Read more...
Source: GGMania headlines
GGMania.com - Daily Gaming and Tech news |
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nb411
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Pony up to a new sensation,
six months late,
less interesting than menstruation,
la la la,
do not want. :S |
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psolord
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, unfortunately they did not come out all that great.
I mean the GTX 480 consumes more than the 5970 in both idle AND load for the love of God.
Interesting technology though. I think it will shine at 28nm! |
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ykazka
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Better luck next year, Nvidia. I went with Radeon---and I got no complains. |
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Tom
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| This game is a hunk of junk to be doing any fps comparisons. I got this game, it's complete junk. Gfx are not improved and the game is buggy just like the past ones. This game has no better gfx than L4D2 so how anything can't get 100fps or more is beyond me, just crap code I guess. My GTX 260 plays the game just fine fps wise with top quality <sic> settings. BC2 has 10x better gfx than this junk and I get a million fps, certainly no vid lag ever. |
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nb411
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| psolord wrote: |
Interesting technology though. I think it will shine at 28nm! |
Yeah the tech is way ahead of its time, and that is why we don't see it thrashing ATI right now. I think Nvidia is banking on CUDA and GPGPU being really big later on and wants to be prepared; at the expense of success in the present day. I think a die shrink will certainly help here, but usually board makers use it as an excuse to overlock the crap out of their cards so that any reduction in heat and power gobbling is negated. Either way, the pricing would have become more competitive. I think for now though, the HD5850 is the mainstream sweet spot. |
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Koogle
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Yeah the tech is way ahead of its time |
oh behind if you ask me.. very few decent things taking advantage of it still. And the things that do are mostly third party developments like plugins that leave a lot to be desired. And I mean they should be bundling shit like badaboom for free (its noob rubbish really, yet one of the few apps that actually uses the gpu). I guess nvidia like there constantly shit driver updates is really starting suck ass. They've still got video playback and production app issues that haven't been resolved for windows desktop in ages.
I guess they've been too busy fagging about appeasing its main market of gaming morons with shitty gimmicks like 3d surround for nvidiots who seem like throwing away money like they have no sense.
And its like they spend more time looking for ways to cripple hardware (like quadro vs gaming cards difference joke) in order to make more money. greedy greentards.
I think I'll go red monster next if they don't get anything better out. |
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Tom
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Koogle wrote: | | Quote: | | Yeah the tech is way ahead of its time |
oh behind if you ask me.. very few decent things taking advantage of it still. And the things that do are mostly third party developments like plugins that leave a lot to be desired. And I mean they should be bundling shit like badaboom for free (its noob rubbish really, yet one of the few apps that actually uses the gpu). I guess nvidia like there constantly shit driver updates is really starting suck ass. They've still got video playback and production app issues that haven't been resolved for windows desktop in ages.
I guess they've been too busy fagging about appeasing its main market of gaming morons with shitty gimmicks like 3d surround for nvidiots who seem like throwing away money like they have no sense.
And its like they spend more time looking for ways to cripple hardware (like quadro vs gaming cards difference joke) in order to make more money. greedy greentards.
I think I'll go red monster next if they don't get anything better out. |
To each their own. I'll never touch an ATI card. Support from ATI/AMD does not hold a candle to the support from nVidia. But then again, right now I see absolutely no sense in upgrading at all. I have yet to have a game that taxes my measly 260. These cards and the ATI new ones are more for the suckers who have to satisfy their ego's. |
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psolord
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Tom wrote: | | Koogle wrote: | | Quote: | | Yeah the tech is way ahead of its time |
oh behind if you ask me.. very few decent things taking advantage of it still. And the things that do are mostly third party developments like plugins that leave a lot to be desired. And I mean they should be bundling shit like badaboom for free (its noob rubbish really, yet one of the few apps that actually uses the gpu). I guess nvidia like there constantly shit driver updates is really starting suck ass. They've still got video playback and production app issues that haven't been resolved for windows desktop in ages.
I guess they've been too busy fagging about appeasing its main market of gaming morons with shitty gimmicks like 3d surround for nvidiots who seem like throwing away money like they have no sense.
And its like they spend more time looking for ways to cripple hardware (like quadro vs gaming cards difference joke) in order to make more money. greedy greentards.
I think I'll go red monster next if they don't get anything better out. |
To each their own. I'll never touch an ATI card. Support from ATI/AMD does not hold a candle to the support from nVidia. But then again, right now I see absolutely no sense in upgrading at all. I have yet to have a game that taxes my measly 260. These cards and the ATI new ones are more for the suckers who have to satisfy their ego's. |
Aside from e-ego, there are practical reasons for new cards and new hardware in general.
Sorry mate, but I like my games at 1920X1080+4XAA and there are quite a few games that can benefit from fast hardware. Not all games are badly coded you know. Some of them have some really difficult effects going on (like Metro-Crysis, whatever) and I don't want to miss that.
Now if you prefer to game at low res, low settings, or play older games, then yes a GTX 260 will do fine. I had one before getting my 5850s.
Granted, the higher you go in the hardware scale, the less games you find taking advantage of it, hence you pay more for less, but what the heck, this is a hobby, we might as well do it right!
As for Nvidia's awesome support, dude, seriously, I have never ever heard of a driver stopping the card's fan before (referring to 196.75 obviously)! |
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Koogle
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | To each their own. I'll never touch an ATI card. |
I wasn't promoting either company actually, I don't really have much of bias in favor of either company. Both have there own interests, both screw customers regularly, both artificially cripple hardware in order to make a new market of professional gfx cards that are really nothing more than the same gaming cards at rip off prices. Both have shit drivers and issues that get ignored in favor of just fixing the more obvious bugs that even the noob majority couldn't miss. Example Nvidia still haven't fixed the video related bugs that were brought to there attention ages ago.
I'll probably wait to see if Nvidia/AMD have anything better out towards the end of the year and go do my comparisons then, gaming benchmark/price comparisons seem to have gotten a little more complicated now that each company has gotten in GPGPU arena, so now you've got benchmarks and differences in that area too, not to mention CAD/3D apps where each has drivers that vary between better and worse than other. So its more of a choice on what you do and not just best gaming benchmarks anymore now.
And I agree AMD maybe the gamers favorite right now (and if you were looking to buy right now Id say screw nvidia, they've fucked up with this overly delayed hardware) but they still have some catching up in other areas where Nvidia's support in its own drivers/tech has a stronghold in application support(if that doesn't matter and its just desktop/video and games than its a much easier comparison to choose a gfx card really). No doubt Ati/AMD are actually happy MS dived in with Directcompute they're quite good at sucking up, much like they've always been in bed supporting that Directx10,11 shit.
I think Nvidia should try getting ATi involved in supporting its more open OS platform and further developed Cuda/Physix technology which already has better support than AMDs tech. Either that or they both mutually support and work on OpenCL.
One thing is for sure Microsucks Directcompute needs to fuck off, its propriety Windows lockin shit, just like Directx. And as Windows is pretty much going down a fucking gutter of noobshit. I really don't care for it getting involved in what were primarily just cpu based app tools aswel now. It will just add to the complication of users dumping Windows in the future as it gets more crap. |
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Venom1
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| psolord wrote: |
Now if you prefer to game at low res, low settings, or play older games, then yes a GTX 260 will do fine. I had one before getting my 5850s.
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You make me laugh.
I can play almost all games in high quality: ME2 in high quality, Metro 2033 in high dx 10 quality, DOW 2 CR in high quality ... with a gtx 260 (216 version)
So pls write with your brain connected next time. |
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psolord
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Venom1 wrote: | | psolord wrote: |
Now if you prefer to game at low res, low settings, or play older games, then yes a GTX 260 will do fine. I had one before getting my 5850s.
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You make me laugh.
I can play almost all games in high quality: ME2 in high quality, Metro 2033 in high dx 10 quality, DOW 2 CR in high quality ... with a gtx 260 (216 version)
So pls write with your brain connected next time. |
Ah let me see
ME2
It run just fine on my 3870 at 1920X1080
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Xh26YAOHU
Dawn of War II is pretty light and runs well in most systems.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2848/9
Still 48fps vs 62fps = not the same thing!
As for Metro ZOMFG
http://vr-zone.com/forums/582617/metro-2033-benchmarked-pcgh-.html
Have fun playing at 20fps!
Dude seriously, get your facts straight and don't tell me to connect my brain. It is YOU that should connect your brain with your eyes![/url] |
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Venom1
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| psolord wrote: | | Venom1 wrote: | | psolord wrote: |
Now if you prefer to game at low res, low settings, or play older games, then yes a GTX 260 will do fine. I had one before getting my 5850s.
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You make me laugh.
I can play almost all games in high quality: ME2 in high quality, Metro 2033 in high dx 10 quality, DOW 2 CR in high quality ... with a gtx 260 (216 version)
So pls write with your brain connected next time. |
Ah let me see
ME2
It run just fine on my 3870 at 1920X1080
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Xh26YAOHU
Dawn of War II is pretty light and runs well in most systems.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2848/9
Still 48fps vs 62fps = not the same thing!
As for Metro ZOMFG
http://vr-zone.com/forums/582617/metro-2033-benchmarked-pcgh-.html
Have fun playing at 20fps!
Dude seriously, get your facts straight and don't tell me to connect my brain. It is YOU that should connect your brain with your eyes![/url] |
Infact, since you write "Now if you prefer to game at low res, low settings, or play older games, then yes a GTX 260 will do fine" so pls tell me what kind of TODAY games need a new super video card?
Btw Metro 2033 runs in high quality at 32 FPS (win 7 modified lite edition 1900x1200), 19 FPS in ultra high quality.
Gtx 260 (216 cores) is still a great card for almost every game. |
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psolord
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Venom1 wrote: |
Infact, since you write "Now if you prefer to game at low res, low settings, or play older games, then yes a GTX 260 will do fine" so pls tell me what kind of TODAY games need a new super video card?
Btw Metro 2033 runs in high quality at 32 FPS (win 7 modified lite edition 1900x1200), 19 FPS in ultra high quality.
Gtx 260 (216 cores) is still a great card for almost every game. |
Yeah great card it was. Yes it can still play some games. I am talking about newer heavy games, like Dirt 2, Bad Company 2, Stalker Call of Pripyat, Avatar, The Settlers 7 and I am not really sure about Just Cause 2 or Supreme Commander 2 since I don't have the GTX 260 any more.
The goal here is max settings, 1080P @ 60fps, not 30fps and 4XAA.
I could also mention older games, like Red Faction Guerrilla, Stalker Clear Sky, Crysis and the list could go on. |
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Tom
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Metro 2033, couldn't give a shit really. Another junk title.
My 260GTX SUPER CLOCKED runs everything and anything at top notch quality at 2048x1152. I can't turn up the settings any higher. Fallout 3 I used mega texture packs and replacements and it ran tops too. I don't need anything more. The stats they throw up for these new cards, mine has to be closely matching anyhow. It's fabricated shit reviews. Shit review because they only benched conveniently the recent cards. It's probably the longest ever time I ever went without upgrading. I cannot conceive of another piece of hardware on my computer that could make anything better than it already is. I don't care for 3D goggle bs either. |
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