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ggrobot · Elite Member Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 53580

GamingBolt.com (thanks BluesNews)
has posted system requirements for Just Cause 2, revealing this is a
DirectX 10 game with no DirectX 9 support. Just Cause 2 releases on the 23rd March for the Xbox 360, PS3 and PC.

Minimum:
- Operating System: Microsoft Windows Vista or Windows 7
(Windows XP is unsupported)

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Sabot · Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:20 am Post subject:

Just another reason why i'll be getting this on PS3. Playing Empire Total War and soon to be playing Napoleon on XP just fine! Reminds me of the farce that was Crysis and Dx10 over 9. I wont be forced into anything, sorry billy boy Laughing

Btw, JC2 does not look very good at all (graphicaly) in that trailer. You can see the wheels not even touching the ground and the sheer lack of detail on the vehicles ala GTA3! lol

Clockw0rk · Contributor Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 11

If you have a computer that would run Just Cause 2 on max settings but haven't upgraded past XP... then you simply fail at PC gaming.

No one is forcing you to be ignorant about modern operating systems.

nb411 · Elite Member Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 497

This has nothing to do with Microsoft's desires, it is a developer responding to the fact that gamers are leaving XP behind in droves now that Windows 7 (especially 64bit) is here. I'm sure this means cleaner and more efficient code for the game, and leaves the devs more time to work on the game itself rather than catering to die-hards with brick walls built around their heads.

Koogle · Elite Member Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 1362

kittomer · Contributing Member Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 56

Koogle, you are to gaming and computers what a street preacher in New York is to religion.

I could replace all of the computer lingo with bible passages, and it would still make the same twisted kind of sense. Smile

Venom1 · Senior Member Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 256

I have XP Sp 3 and Win 7 32 and please, don't say Win 7 is better...

nb411 · Elite Member Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 497

Hook, line and sinker. Very Happy

Koogle · Elite Member Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 1362

"Windows 7 still have bugs. "

problem is that its got more issues than just bugs, its got bad design flaws! bugs people can work around or just move on and find another way, design flaws are in your face all the time. Like the piss poor Explorer shell and just about everything that is associated with it and what was changed not for the better but for the worse. Not taking in the retarded architectural changes.

I'm someone who jumps onto the next best platform soon as everything I have in my current setup is taken care of, its a balance. Win7 just doesn't come close to offering anything of value or feature improvement just nothing but crap to me.

I can understand why some people find it ok, but then those same people aren't exactly on the same level of understanding the comparisons I make from my customized XP setup. If anything they compare defaulty Win7 install to a defaulty XP install, not taking in the fact that XP has far far more going for it in actual OS customization and improvements for those who bother to check. Or the more efficient performance in GFX (full gdi+ support and usage, you also don't have to use the useless FailAero gui, and where the customized visual styles look hideous on vis7a shell fuck up) Audio (fully hardware accelerated no drm and extra cpu wasting shit) CPU (explorer doesn't waste cycles on useless crap and poor coding) Memory (when tweaked far less service memory/cpu wasted to useless background processes than win7) not to mention again that so much of Vis7a isn't an improvement in anyway to XP at all just worse, and so far there haven't been any shell extensions or third party tools to improve on that win7 scrap its just hindered by poor vista design still.

So Win7 really only has dx11 to me, and even then I haven't seen any games worth wasting my time again on it for that even. For now Win7 is best left as a VM, because wasting a hdd partition on it would be pointless and I'd have no reason to ever boot it up.

"Even AutoCAD doesn't work with Windows 7 properly "

Most Adobe/Autodesk apps work and look like shit on Win7, and I just can't put myself through using such a fucked up looking explorer shell, its a waste of good pc hardware running crap OS like that. It's why I use XP64 pc for production work where I want all memory, otherwise XPsp3 most the time seeing as I can use a ramdisk to make use of that extra memory that way.

Ozieo · Elite Member Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 648

Win7 SP3 will piss all over XP SP3 ! Very Happy

Sabot · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject:

Renton · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:42 pm Post subject:

Let's rewind. Most people say the same things when Carmack forgot about Win98SE/Me and make Doom 3 WinXP exclusive.

The difference with old crap and new crap is that is better run with new crap. The WinsOS are never going to be "the greatest", but for de developers point of view is simply stupid still making code and patches to adresses issues on a 10 year old OS.

No mather what, if you are a gamer and you are running a machine that surpases by far WinVista/7 requirements, why dont you do it? Why stay with the old? Cause you are an ati-capitalism bastard? Cause you hate MS? Grown up! Win7 works like a Windows SO. With pros and cons. Is not better or worst than any other bullshit MS develops.

I personally said goodbye to XP in all my Desktop PCs and Notebooks the moment Win7 sees the light. I was testing the RC before that.

If I'm a dev, I'll also cut out x86 support.

Koogle · Elite Member Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 1362

"Carmack forgot about Win98SE/Me and make Doom 3 WinXP exclusive. "

You seem to forget that WinXP was a better OS than WIn98SE/ME, it was even better than Windows 2000, simply because it was win2k with extra good shit.

That fucking right there is the fcuking difference between WinXP and Winshi7e. XP is still overall a better more efficient OS, and I did upgrade from Win98SE straight to Windows2000, and then straight to WinXP, because the improvements were there, and the adverse side effects to existing apps, extensions were zero to none! It was a win/win

Unlike Vis7a which is a shit/shit, there is no balance of overall improvement on my current setup. None whatsoever.

What we have with Vis7a is a royal fuck up of epic proportions in stupid retarded noob design, crap changes, and pathetic improvements if you could even call them improvements. XP has been around 8years and it does still pisses all over vis7a, so much so that Vis7a still hasn't gotten anything that is so exclusive to it that I would actually want to use it.

So don't give me that bullshit, you can say goodbye to XP because you're fucking stupid and don't have the same better setup that I do on XP, because I ain't missing shit from Win7.

"Win7 SP3 will piss all over XP SP3 ! Very Happy"

I'd like to see you get a Win7 SP3 Razz

what you'll have is Windows Next, and going by the current path of releasing consumer crap, it will be crap. And you can think of it Win7SP3, Win7 however will never have the same marketing penetration and long term existance, simply because MS realized it was the biggest mistake to them making more money on constant upgrades, which XP put a holt to for those not stupid enough to have upgraded to Visteergh and then to the pathetic rebranded Winshi7e upgrade.

" I was testing the RC before that. "

so was I, and it was shit, not to mention they even did fix some of my bug/design issues that were reported, but no where near enough to make me want to use that garbage over my XP setup.

Renton · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:18 pm Post subject:

Koogle · Elite Member Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 1362

You can't see how 7x64 is worse than XPx86?

lets see one has an Explorer shell that is downright fucking shit, the other one has an Explorer shell that is far more extensible. Oh and XP64 has the same advantage.

How many more points to do you want that I haven't already been over... not to mention a shit load are already on this site http://www.windows7taskforce.com

It's not the opinion you have on Win7, I know plenty of people who just aren't as tech savvy and find Win7 just fine, but those same people aren't anywhere near on the same level of wanting enhanced power functionality, and intuitive/productive workflow in there OS environment. Or who even notice shit design, crap workflow, window layouts etc... piss poor lack of functionality and features, customization etc etc

Things like a fat iconized taskbar is wonderful to them, to me its naff gimmick, a fat iconized taskbar is rubbish, I can't stand document grouping the list of why certain features are crap when compared to other far better methods would just take far to long to explain to someone who just cannot understand and see how or why.

"Whatever gibilish you say "

and that right there is why you haven't a clue and probably never will.

So you keep your opinion of Win7 being better, but it does not, and cannot match my current OS environment setup, because if it did, I'd already using it.