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ggrobot · Elite Member Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 53564

After Ageia's PhysX chip and Nvidia's Havok FX support announcement,
ATI now follows suit with its own proclamation of support for accelerated gaming physics. The chaps over at FiringSquad decided to contact AGEIA to get their side on things.

Here is AGEIA's response via their vice president of marketing Michae

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monoxism · Contributor Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 4

Is it just me, or does Ageia seem kinda desperate?

xxxx · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject:

Pfff, I wouldn't touch ATI's card if you held a gun to my head. I wouldn't touch an AGEIA either... it's nVidia here ALL THE WAY BABY. The way it's meant to be played!

El_Coyote · Elite Member Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 611

xxxx · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject:

Or big mouthes like Coyote who can't appreciate other peoples opinion and instead only have the intelligence to throw insults. Duh.

Sabot · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject:

The main thing to ask yourself is, "how many of those 20+ titles are you buying?" That's what is important, not the fact that they have several devs churning out 20-100 games that you have absolutely NO interest in!

Any dev will pump up figures to brag that their hardware is supported for the future -this of course looks good to the uninitiated (lots of ones and zeros must mean FULL support said johny) but it is realy wasted $$££100s on a pointless gimmick that doesn't fit your game style if you can only buy 4-5 games out that list...then of course you wait and wait (in hope) for some GOOD titles to come along, but as usual that never happens and the card get's binned!

Bit like buying an XBox360 and finding out that all the GOOD titles, that you originaly bought it for, then got released BETTER on PC. Lesson learned? Nah you'll do it again; take the bait hook-line-and-sinker Laughing

Nosferatu · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:31 am Post subject:

Good point, Stumpus.
I guess all this rush on the physics side will spawn a good solution in a year or two. By the time we'll see games taking advantage of it and there will be reason to buy it.
The way I see it, the situation is similar to any cool feature introduced: think pixel and vertex shaders. When GeForce3 originally came out no games supported shader model at all, this was true for quite a long time. And only now we see very advanced effects that use shaders to its potential (still the sky's the limit).

xxxx · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject:

There's a BIG difference betweeen the use of Pixel shaders and overabundant and not necessarily needed physics. And the support of Pixel shading taking a long time? BS. I also think you totally missed Stumpus points.

Nosferatu · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:02 pm Post subject:

1. I only said I agreed with Stumpus, I wasn't connecting what I said with what he said.
2. Probably the "long time" wasn't really so long, but it wasn't immediate, that's for sure. Consider, that GF2 GTS had the PS 1.0 support, that was even advertised a bit, but it just never got used (probably wasn't really usable at all).

xxxx · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject:

bah, removed my post, its not what I wanted to say. I don't care to deliberate on this really because it's pretty dumb anyhow..

AGEIA will 'need' fair support from ATI and nVidia to be successful. ATI and nVidia signed on with Havok. ATI and nVidia have been happy gouging us on video card prices for years. They don't want to disturb their yearly profits because someone is making money off physics acceleration. They throw in their monopolistic almost plan and partner with Havok. The 3 of them have been working together for years, do you really think AGEIA has a chance to begin with?

But really, lets 'see' if ATI and nVidia provide open compatibility to the newcommer. Hahahhahahaha!

Oh and if AGEIA is going to get into games they shouldn't be forcing senseless drivers on us when we don't even have their hardware. That doesn't help their position in my mind.