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ggrobot Elite Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject: Nvidia Fermi successor called Kepler, coming 2011 [29713] |
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of Jen-Hsun Huang\'s GTC keynote as Nvidia\'s CEO
has presented a roadmap depicting the next two GPU
architectures currently in the works at the Santa Clara company.
Fermi\'s successors are known as Kepler and Maxwell and are scheduled to
launch in 2011 and 2013, respectively. Kepler will be based on a
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psolord Elite Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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That three times better GF per watt is a total scam.
If you have a 2X2cm=400mm^2 chip at 40nm, when you scale it down, you will get 28/40=07 x 2cm = 1.4 cm per side so the resulting chip will be 1.4x1.4cm=196m^2.
The shrink alone will bring a chip half the size with power draw to follow suit. So in essence Nvidia is promising 50% better perf per watt? Oh rly? |
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tride Elite Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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psolord: lol dude, you make it sound sooo simple... Your math is awesome! lol
So, there is no point of buying new vga yet  |
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psolord Elite Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| tride wrote: | psolord: lol dude, you make it sound sooo simple... Your math is awesome! lol
So, there is no point of buying new vga yet  |
I did some on the fly conversions from cm to mm there, but other than that, the calculations are correct.
There's indeed no point buying a new VGA now, because Radeon 6000 series launches in one month, so everything else will be compressed down price wise. Nvidia will still have nothing new to offer for another six months or more. Maybe even a dual GF104 card but that is debatable as well. |
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nb411 Elite Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Yo psolord, don't forget this bit too:
"Huang noted that such an improvement goes "far beyond" what process technology advances alone can achieve. Changes in the chip architecture, design, and software will contribute to that advance, as well." |
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Csimbi Elite Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:01 am Post subject: |
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2011?
Isn't that late?
NVidia might be dead by then... |
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psolord Elite Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Csimbi wrote: | 2011?
Isn't that late?
NVidia might be dead by then... |
There is something far more worrying than that. Did you see the Fermi date? Was Fermi a 2009 product? How does that equate to Kepler?  |
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Csimbi Elite Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Well, yes, that's quite alarming.
I would not be surprised if a few decision makers were fired from the company soon... |
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Tom Elite Member

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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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First off who really needs an ATI 6000? You really think everyone is going to run out to the store and buy one? Not likely. Is there any game out there that needs a 6000 series card from ATI? No...So what does it matter if Nvidia doesn't have anything out at the same time?
Also...
Fermi, was late 2009 released 2010..
Kepler late 2010, releasing 2011...
notice the trend? late? no..
Kepler and Maxwell will kick the crap out of what AMD/ATI has. More processing power per watt which will also allow their cards to run at a much lower temperatures. Also given the die is further decreased in size. The cards will run faster and quieter and cooler.
All really doesn't matter anyhow. Like I said, there is nothing out that requires anything more than a GTX260 or GTX460... after that it's simply bragging rights.
Last I knew, Nvidia is still the reigning champion in terms of speed. Also, Nvidia still occupies the most market share.
So a statement like "NVidia might be dead by then.." is pretty idiotic. |
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Csimbi Elite Member

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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Well Tom, if Nvidia does not sell video cards, it will not have money to finance research (and, maybe the company). We should not forget that their primary income is from the video cards.
Their market share might be still large, but I suspect it will continue shrinking.
I hope I am wrong, but everything I read so far tells me that there's trouble coming for Nvidia.
BTW: ATI does not look any better. |
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