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ggrobot · Elite Member Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 53583

Tomb Raider has just been released but it seems that Nvidia users won't be able to enjoy Crystal Dynamics' title as the final build is seriously bugged for all Nvidia users. According to Nvidia, the final build of Tomb Raider suffers from performance and stability issues even with the latest GeForce Beta drivers: w

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Sabot · Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:11 pm Post subject:

So you've got to ask, how on earth was there no collaboration with the devs, Nvidia and STEAM during this titles later development? It's totally arse from elbow- ONE (hugely anticipated) game doesn't work with thousands/millions of Nvidia GPUs sold worldwide!! Someone needs their nuts kicked!!!

Just seen the box. It's full of AMD logos on the back.

Read this, it Explains the conspiracy.
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/180969/AMD-and-Crystal-Dynamics-Collaboration-Delivers-quot-Tomb-Raider-quot-with-TressFX.html

Csimbi · Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:01 pm Post subject:

So this is what you get when you get a DX11 game?
Thanks, but no thanks!

I won't be buying an AMD card just to try this game; nice try though!

heretic · Site Admin Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 2847

djnforce9 · Contributing Member Joined: 18 Feb 2013 Posts: 65

Funny thing is that when I used to own an AMD card, stuff like this happened with many major releases. A couple that come to mind including Rage. At the time, there was broken OpenGL support at that time whereby even Quake 4, Doom 3, Prey, and many others would lock up on all AMD cards. AMD had to fix it at this point because of that particular game. There was also awful performance issues with Saints Row: The Third when that first came out even despite having AMD's logo plastered all over it.

This is one of the few times I've hit an Nvidia related Snag.

Sabot · Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject:

The reason i was pissed off, was i had just got the game in the post this morning - failing to have seen the problems with Nvidia drivers due to Crystal Dynamics love affair with one graphics card manufacturer. Gee whiz, i honestly thought PC devs had actually grown out of that phase and this was a M$ exclusive problem? But clearly not... Even made for Nvidia WORKS but without the Phyx for AMD, but these ass wipes are taking the biscuit!

Anyway, i ran the game with all bells and whistles ticked -for the hell of it -as you do- and has been reported, the problem i only have, is with Tessellation enabled. Graphical anomalies jump out every where! Other than that it plays and looks a dream!
I have just played a solid 2hrs without a glitch. i tried the benchmark and got an average 32fps -this is with every setting on ultra, x8AA, x16Anisotropic, post processing, exclusive fullscreen and high precision 1920x1080p.
It's a lovely looking game, no doubt about that, but like every new title made for PC it still has a console GUI. (blame the dev's)
Lots of QTEs as well -like Crysis3 reported to have, it works and adds to the tension (tension being vulnerable female!) but it's either that or watch a cutscene. Or replay the same bloody QTE because you fooked up. lol
early days into it and it's what i would call a fun game. Obviously i built my machine from scratch and haven't had any probs other than the reported Nvidia tessellation bug. Which is good news. it also only cost me £23 from Amazon.
Just need Nvidia to tweak the driver prob and i'll be cooking with gas Cool

ir0nw0lf · Contributing Member Joined: 07 Nov 2011 Posts: 50

More to this from other sites. Brent at [H]ardOCP had this to add:

Sabot · Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:13 pm Post subject:

Well i dont know about other peoples sytems, but i have a GeForce GTX660TI and i've just enabled Tressfx -tessellation off- and ran a new benchmark, ultra settings as per my settings below, and hit a high of 46fps average and the tressfx looks very good. Just played another 1hr solid as a rock. Running 314.07 driver.
There's nothing wrong with the game for me, other than tessellation... hmmmm.

Sabot · Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:56 pm Post subject:

On the STEAM forum, as per my settings and driver, it works
http://steamcommunity.com/app/203160/discussions/0/846946775338418536/

Tom · Elite Member Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 4289

I ain't buying this crap in the first place. Then there is Simcity which apparently stores your save game on a server. How fucking stupid is that? 2 games I have zero interest in.

@HX. Good for you. ATI doesn't touch Nvidia period even for an HTPC, ATI sucks. I know I tried the 6x series.. Hunk of crap.

Baconnaise · Elite Member Joined: 22 Jun 2010 Posts: 710

I planning on picking up a 7950 for one of my extra comps I'm replacing. I do have an ATI card in a phenom machine but it's a high/low end card and runs reasonably well. The primary reason for me trying another ATI card is because I'm seeing issues on a 460SE and 465SE where the 465 is dead already and the 460 is now starting with the same problems where it randomly restarts the machine when watching streams/games etc. It's not a heat or overclock issue. I initially thought it was the PSU's in these systems but I have seasonic and antec which when purchased had known quality caps and components internally and could supply more than enough power for SLI or a more beefy 680/690. One of my cases is an antec skeleton which is just a pretty review/benchmark station for consumers. The six pin connectors on the nvidia cards seem to have quality control issues from what I've observed. Planning on a dual fan 7950 w/ boost most likely to take the place of a 460/560/660.

Tom I agree the lack of control over saves in Simcity is a HUGE design flaw. The reason Simcity/Simant/Simearth and other variations were so popular and unique were because of the various things anyone could do. Part of that was being able to try something utterly crazy and rolling back to a previous save. The new game doesn't allow you to take risks which really just kills any sort of fun most will have.

heretic · Site Admin Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 2847

Csimbi · Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:13 am Post subject:

I had the same feeling with my ATI cards in the past, so I am not in the NVidia camp.

Sabot · Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:12 pm Post subject:

Since I own an old 4850 512mb going strong in my old legacy Xp machIne, that was why I went for the 7850 for my new monster build, and boy that was a disaster! I had nothing but conflicts with my Total War series of games... Well anything that fucked up those games was not on!
Then I came across this thread- which I've posted before- and that was it. AMD was dead in my books through sheer lack of quality and support, yeah their cards are cheap and now I know why......
http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/35440-7xxx-Series-AMD-cards-freezes-and-lock-ups-solution-being-debugged-by-AMD

This quote on the last page sums it up;

djnforce9 · Contributing Member Joined: 18 Feb 2013 Posts: 65

I've decided to hold off until another nVidia drivers release so I can get the best experience possible. Here's hoping for a framerate/performance fix so I can max everything and tack on 3D Vision. Right now, I have to disable some of the special effects to get decent performance with 3D Vision. I know my GTX680 GPU can do it as I can run Crysis 3 maxed out with FXAA and then 3D Vision turned on and that's still smooth too.