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[ggrobot]

CD Projekt told Eurogamer that gamers who download
upcoming PC exclusive The Witcher 2 illegally could receive a letter
demanding they pay a fine or face legal action. If gamers refuse to pay

up in court. Wow!

\uot;Of course we\'re not happy when people are pirating our games, so we
are signing with legal fi

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[Csimbi]

There are indeed serious problems associated with proving that someone has downloaded a game using the bit-torrent protocol, and most often these sneaking/spying companies catch the wrong guy.
Another problem is that there many countries where you can download anything (including games, music and movies) from the internet for private purposes - that is not illegal at all; only distribution of these "goods" are illegal.
So, the only chance for these "sneaking/spying companies" is to find peers that are uploading content actively (not just being reported as sources by the trackers) - but these are typically hijacked computers and their owners have no clue what's going on, or, servers rented in the far east where most laws and regulations are not applicable.

As for the game, I will surely buy it (loved the first one and own that, too).
But. If CD Project thinks they can achieve what others could not, they are only fooling themselves...
Sure, they can protect it with heavy DRMs that may hold back people from cracking their game for a few weeks, but the heavy DRM is going to disappoint the real owners who actually pay, so the whole thing will backfire in the long run...

If the game is good, people will buy it.
If it's bad, people won't buy it.
And, there will always be kids who believe it's fun to circumvent the system. For them, it does not matter whether the game is good or bad - they just use it to stroke their ego or show off to their friends. There's nothing you can do about this. The sooner you accept that fact and learn to coop with it, the faster you save all that money spent on useless firms and lawsuits.

One more thing. Many companies blame the pirates when their sales are low and they are looking for a way to make a quick buck (dragging mostly innocent people into court). The sad part is that they ignore the fact that their game might actually suck and nobody is willing to pay for it...

[psolord]

Witcher owner here as well.

CD project can go screw themselves if they think they can bully people around. I am still going to buy Witcher 2 because it seems like a good game.

Good luck to them finding people that download from filehosters though. lol

[Majnun]

If the game is good people will buy it?

Are you an idiot?

Yes, if the game is good SOME people will buy it. Me, and I am assuming from your naive statements you, and SOME other people.

But MANY other assholes will pirate a GOOD game exactly the same as they will pirate a bad game and they will NEVER buy a copy. You're a fool if you think every asshole who downloads an illegal copy of a game and finds the game good will end up buying the game. A complete and utter fool. The only thing that will change is the excuse they use for not paying for it.

I can't see how this will help prevent piracy all that much but I hope they nuke the fucking hell out of as many assholes as they can. Fuck you pirates.

Of course any pirate who is too stupid to use a proxy and find another means of getting a game illegally is a complete idiot too and deserves to be fined for their own stupidity.

And to me it seems that anybody who bitches about this is a thieving asshole looking for some bullshit reason to justify their thievery. They are giving us a DRM FREE version of the fucking game. That's what everybody wants. If the game SUCKS everyone will know it fairly quickly. Saying you need to download a copy illegally to find out if it sucks or not is utter bullshit. Especially if they put out a demo...which I sure hope they do. But this is The Witcher 2 FFS I'm pretty sure it will not suck.

Edit: thinking of something after reading the post below me... I think CD Projekt might have been smarter if they had done exactly as they are intending to do (fining the shit out of pirates) but NOT coming out and saying that they intended to do so before the game came out. Why warn thieves that you will be sitting beside the window they usually come through waiting to grab them...that just tells them to use a different window (unless they're morons) and it gives you idiots some magical reason to bitch.

[gx-x]

I don't see the point in this. Their first game was DRM free as well and sold very well. It sold excellent for that matter, I think it was better than crysis.
The thing is, you cannot go against mentality and/or people's wallets by force. I said a couple of times here already, I am from Serbia, compared to USA or EU countries we are very poor country and yet, I know that lot of people here bought witcher after playing it through on downloaded copy. Game is good, price is very good (we earn ~400$/mo on average) and people bought it out of respect and to support quality. I think it was ~20$ here (~16 euros), which is still no small feat if you earn 400$ per month and half of that goes on bills, and you have to eat, go out etc etc.

so, as far as I am concerned, Witcher 1 was a big success, excellent sales, good price, EXCELLENT game.

I just don't see why they had to go with these kind of statements. Piracy in most small countries means that you are distributing copyright material or using it in commercial purposes, not using it for personal needs. It is not regarded as theft since the owner is not missing anything physically and cannot prove that you stole from him.

I don't think I will buy witcher 2, I cannot afford it, BUT if I could buy it, I would buy it on physical media. I would most certainly try it before I buy it. Games I buy - I keep. I buy them after I like them

However, I am not saying I approve of piracy in general. I strongly disapprove of stealing or illegal downloading of software if you can afford it. Most western world citizens can due to salary/cost ratio and I think it's just, for lack of a better word, rude to pirate when you can afford something.

some will find my post hypocritical but I can't think of a better way to portray my thoughts to those of you that, for example, have a 2000+$ salaries...One night in town costs you at least 50$ (club night), here it costs 10$, it is somewhat proportional to salary difference (400 vs 2000) but that 50$ game costs the same here and in US.

[gx-x]

[tride]

This is not a way to make more customers! So I am definitely pirating this game, just to see if ill get a letter
I never played W1, not interested in the genre, but i will pirate it!

[Csimbi]

[tride]

Its the most normal human reaction to not take someones shit, that is trying to tell him how to think, act, what i right and wrong, what to do and not to do!
Fuck those companies and people and politics and so on and so on!
Fuckin find the right way to win peoples hearts and minds, and take their money or FUCK you big time!

[Tom]

Witcher was always over rated. Couldn't care less for the series. It's not even interesting enough to want to download it illegally.

[raven99]

[tub0rg]

you gotta love this shit, they pay laywers so they can con stupid poeple out of their money, who believe the shit they write on paper.

and thank god i live in a country where they dont have any legal merit beyond a 20 buck fine.

im looking foward to recieve my CD Project sponsonred toilet paper.

[Csimbi]

[sikapossu]

first game was 1 of the best rpg so going buy this on when it get release for sure

edit : and if you buy games like normal ppl do this dont really should be any problem to anyone

[gx-x]