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Intel 10th Gen Core X "Cascade Lake-X" Pricing and Specs - tech|
| (hx) 04:38 PM CEST - Oct,04 2019 | The 10th generation Core X HEDT processor family is based on the new 14 nm++ "Cascade Lake" silicon, which comes with hardware fixes against several classes side-channel vulnerabilities, and introduces an updated instruction-set that includes more AVX-512 instructions, and the new DLBoost instruction. DLBoost leverages new fixed-function hardware on silicon to accelerate AI deep-learning neural-set building and training by up to 5 times. Intel's first wave of 10th gen Core X lineup is rather slim, with just four processor models. The company did away with the Core i7 brand extension, as core-counts in the mainstream desktop segment have already reached 8-core. The lineup now begins at 10-core/20-thread, with the chip's full 48-lane PCI-Express and 4-channel DDR4 interfaces enabled across the board. All models feature the "XE" brand extension, and feature unlocked base-clock multipliers. The Core i9-10900XE is your gateway to the series. This 10-core/20-thread chip comes with a fascinating price-tag of just USD $590, a significant drop from the $999 price for the previous-generation 10-core chip, the i9-9900X. It's clocked higher, with 3.70 GHz nominal, 4.50 GHz Turbo Boost 2.0, 4.70 GHz Turbo Boost Max 3.0 and 4.30 GHz all-core Turbo. The chip is endowed with 1 MB of dedicated L2 cache per core, and 19.25 MB of shared L3 cache.
The Core i9-10920XE is a $689 12-core/24-thread chip priced under AMD's upcoming flagship AM4 model, the Ryzen 9 3950X. It's marginally faster than its predecessor, the i9-9920X, with 3.50 GHz base clocks (same), 4.60 GHz Turbo Boost 2.0, 4.80 GHz Turbo Boost Max 3.0, and 4.30 GHz all-core turbo. Interestingly, the increase in core-count doesn't bring additional L3 cache, you get the same 19.25 MB.
The next step in this series is the $784 Core i9-10940XE, a 14-core/28-thread processor clocked at 3.30 GHz, with 4.60 GHz Turbo Boost 2.0, 4.80 GHz Turbo Boost Max 3.0, and 4.10 GHz all-core turbo. Yet again, you get just 19.25 MB of shared L3 cache. Interestingly, Intel did not plan a 16-core/32-thread model in this series, you jump straight to the flagship.
Leading the pack is the Core i9-10980XE, an 18-core/36-thread processor priced at a mouth-watering $979, which is less than half that of the previous-generation Core i9-9980XE. It ticks at 3.00 GHz, with 4.60 GHz Turbo Boost 2.0, 4.80 GHz Turbo Boost Max 3.0, and 3.80 GHz all-core turbo. You get a larger 24.75 MB of shared L3 cache. All four chips have their TDP rated at 165 W. |
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last 10 comments: | Csimbi | (06:05 PM CEST - Oct,04 2019 ) | | lol @ all-core turbo |
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| gx-x | (06:50 PM CEST - Oct,04 2019 ) | | Really? That's what caught your eye? How about a nuclear plant TDP ? :D Will they ship it with chiller or LN2 tanks and tube mount? :D |
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| Csimbi | (07:21 PM CEST - Oct,04 2019 ) | TDP is at the end.
I stopped reading at "all-core turbo"; these CPUs are joke.
I either get the turbo boost on all cores or there's no sale.
Go build stupid CPUs for dummies. |
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| gx-x | (07:30 PM CEST - Oct,04 2019 ) | Csimbi> TDP is at the end.
I stopped reading at "all-core turbo"; these CPUs are joke.
I either get the turbo boost on all cores or there's no sale.
Go build stupid CPUs for dummies.
Turbo Boost was always like that. It was listed for one core, always. Nothing that you can't fix in BIOS if you didn't save 20 eur by not buying Z motherboard. |
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| Csimbi | (09:56 AM CEST - Oct,05 2019 ) | Correct, even the 4790k boosted to only ~4.2 instead of 4.4.
But the difference of 200Mhz is not that big.
But when you look here, it's 4.3 instead of 4.7.
The gap is growing greater - it is close to 500Mhz.
That's something that you're going to "feel" even if you have 10 cores.
Peeps who buy these CPUs are not gamers and alike.
Whoever buys these will run serious multithreaded shit.
Think AWS, Google, Microsoft with massive data centers.
These people might be better off with an AMD 16/24/32core CPU at lower clock speeds. They'll save vast amounts on facility cooling and power consumption.
And from that it's clean: these "new" CPUs are just a bunch of beauty pageant contestants, to move the focus away from the fact that Intel has nothing new to show, really.
I've been saying for a long time that without competition, Intel deliberately stopped innovating and has been capitalizing on minor iterations using their monopoly.
It's well within their rights of course, but now they'll fall on their face on the account of being too greedy. |
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| gx-x | (11:52 AM CEST - Oct,05 2019 ) | the gap is big because of the core count and TDP. If they use almost 200W in this state, imagine them all @4.7 or god forbid 5ghz all-core :D
I didn't read up too much on it, I would have to see the die area and how big the surface area on top of it is. Cooling ~400W ain't a joke (well, it is actually, this is hilarious knee jerk move from intel in response to AMD) |
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| Csimbi | (01:33 PM CEST - Oct,05 2019 ) | | Will keep your feet warm on those chilly winter nights :D |
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| gx-x | (02:14 PM CEST - Oct,05 2019 ) | | yea, if one could find a mobo that can deliver 300~400W to CPU :D |
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| Csimbi | (10:10 PM CEST - Oct,05 2019 ) | | Here, this might be relevant. |
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| gx-x | (11:32 PM CEST - Oct,05 2019 ) | | looks like intel might drop prices even more. I am fine with my current cpu (9400F) but looks like 9600K might be interesting soon if they price it reasonably (not that I need a faster a CPU, even for work, but heh, why not :P) |
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| heretic | (12:07 AM CEST - Oct,06 2019 ) | gx-x> looks like intel might drop prices even more. I am fine with my current cpu (9400F) but looks like 9600K might be interesting soon if they price it reasonably (not that I need a faster a CPU, even for work, but heh, why not :P)
FYI, I already have 9600K :D |
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| gx-x | (12:12 AM CEST - Oct,06 2019 ) | | It's a good CPU, I was just not willing to pay ~150 eur more over 9400F (~125e ) when I was in the market. (and I am still not willing to pay 100e more for it, it's just not worth that to me) |
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| Csimbi | (08:46 PM CEST - Oct,16 2019 ) | This does not look good for Intel at all.
lol |
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| gx-x | (09:54 PM CEST - Oct,16 2019 ) | well, their current 14nm does everything AMD 10nm does so they are fine for last gen and not really fine for above 8 core CPU models but not that behind (which tells you something about how far behind AMD WAS).
The thing is, AMD changes one tech in 10 years while intel milks existing one with minor improvements until AMD makes something new.
What I am trying to say is, AMD is in a bit of a lead now, but they are competing with almost 8+ year old intel tech. Come 2022, AMD will be "dead" again. Until then, really for consumer market, ryzen 2600/3600 or i5/7 2600/2700 is also fine. I just don't see major thing happening there on desktop.
Also:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hardwareluxx.de%2Findex.php%2Fnews%2Fhardware%2Fprozessoren%2F51128-insider-geruechte-intel-streicht-10-nm-plaene-fuer-den-desktop-komplett.html
this can be read by non-German speaking readers. :)
PS. Keep in mind intel does in-house fab, so they cannot afford to have 14nm, 10nm, 7nm and even 18nm fabs in house for everything. They just don't outsource since they offer more than just CPUs. Their new iGP will be ready for next year and new CPU line,and every iGP will rival AMD G series CPU, which is...big actually in mobile market, since Vega is power hungry and hot. Just for perspective : you can play cs:go and such games on G series AMD so this will be big for intel, specially since power req. will be lower so will temps. |
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