Just Cause 2 will not support Windows XP - briefly
(hx) 09:06 PM CET - Feb,23 2010
GamingBolt.com (thanks BluesNews)
has posted system requirements (originally taken from Steam) for Just Cause 2, revealing this is a
DirectX 10 game with no DirectX 9 support. Just Cause 2 releases on the 23rd March for the Xbox 360, PS3 and PC.
Minimum: - Operating System: Microsoft Windows Vista or Windows 7
(Windows XP is unsupported)
- Processor: Dual-core CPU with SSE3 (Athlon 64 X2 4200 / Pentium D
3GHz)
- Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce 8800 Series / ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
with 256MB memory or equivalent DX10 card with 256MB memory
- Memory: 2GB RAM
- DirectX: Microsoft DirectX 10
- Hard Drive: 10GB of free drive space
- Optical Drive: DVD-ROM drive
- Sound Card: 100% DirectX 10 compatible sound card
- Internet Connection: Internet connection required for product
activation
- Input: Keyboard and mouse (Microsoft Xbox 360 controller optional)
Recommended: - Operating System: Microsoft Windows Vista or Windows 7
(Windows XP is unsupported)
- Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.6GHz or AMD Phenom X3 2.4GHz
- Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTS 250 Series with 512MB / ATI Radeon
HD 5750 Series with 512MB or equivalent DX10 card with 512MB memory
- Memory: 3GB
- DirectX: Microsoft DirectX 10.1 with Vista SP1
- Hard Drive: 10GB of free drive space
- Optical Drive: DVD-ROM drive
- Sound Card: 100% DirectX 10 compatible Dolby Digital 5.1 sound card
- Internet Connection: Internet connection required for product
activation
- Input: Keyboard and mouse (Xbox 360 controller optional)
last 10 comments:
Sabot
(11:20 PM CET - Feb,23 2010 )
Just another reason why i'll be getting this on PS3. Playing Empire Total War and soon to be playing Napoleon on XP just fine! Reminds me of the farce that was Crysis and Dx10 over 9. I wont be forced into anything, sorry billy boy :lol:
Btw, JC2 does not look very good at all (graphicaly) in that trailer. You can see the wheels not even touching the ground and the sheer lack of detail on the vehicles ala GTA3! lol
Clockw0rk
(02:44 AM CET - Feb,24 2010 )
If you have a computer that would run Just Cause 2 on max settings but haven't upgraded past XP... then you simply fail at PC gaming.
No one is forcing you to be ignorant about modern operating systems.
nb411
(05:30 AM CET - Feb,24 2010 )
This has nothing to do with Microsoft's desires, it is a developer responding to the fact that gamers are leaving XP behind in droves now that Windows 7 (especially 64bit) is here. I'm sure this means cleaner and more efficient code for the game, and leaves the devs more time to work on the game itself rather than catering to die-hards with brick walls built around their heads.
Koogle
(06:27 AM CET - Feb,24 2010 )
quote: No one is forcing you to be ignorant about modern operating systems.
hahah lol, the only ignorant one is you dipshit, while I have a far more performent and Superior OS experience, you're using shi7e, that was built and designed for clueless retards. but oh yes it makes great use of multicore, a great fucking waste. While on my setup I get the most use out of my hardware where hardware usage is not wasted on piss poor coding and shit design. Desktop performance and window handling is far better, XP Explorer +shell extensions is far more productive not that you would have a fucking clue, let me a guess another fat iconized taskbar nooblet :P
quote: This has nothing to do with Microsoft's desires, it is a developer responding to the fact that gamers are leaving XP behind in droves now that Windows 7 (especially 64bit) is here. I'm sure this means cleaner and more efficient code for the game, and leaves the devs more time to work on the game itself rather than catering to die-hards with brick walls built around their heads.
brick walls made of holes and bits of shit code tacked together by devs who couldn't be arsed to actually fix bugs and make half decent features, because they were building and design that pile of garbage for clueless retards who can be easily sold on the idea that just because its newer its better. LOLOLOLOLOL
get a fucking clue idiot, XPsp3/64 still pisses all over that Winshi7e/vis7a rebranded garbage, XP still has far better shell extensions, much better performance, unhindered by a retarded shell changes that make the defaulty luna and xp shell look like something designed for professionals, unlike that crap shi7e you're using, where the idea of theme is some color change and some laugable transparceny shit for its retarded UX/UI design. While on my custimzed XP I have a far far far better looking visual style theme!!! (yes a theme not that pathetic shit you use) and it pisses all that FAIL AERO GUI crap!, which looks like it was designed for fucking sheep, who get confused by settings, customization and decent functionality, or expect improvements in os dialogs, that have been the same for 8+years, but are easily pleased with weak as piss shit like dx11, and other pathetic frivolous crap that is of no benefit use or improvement to anyone but a clueless retard. Who surprisingly wouldn't know what a fucking workflow improvement or intuitive design was about or what it meant to user effiecny if it hit em over the head. No wonder Microsuck get noobs to test their products, its soo much easier to sell them shit, in a few years sell them some slighty changed shit again. cough Vista> 7 .... Vis7eeergh
Oh as for Lost Cause2, being more efficient? lol get the fuck back to programming skool, ya muppet, its not going to be more efficient just because it doesn't support dx9 or support xp.. its actually far easier to support XP/dx9 than it is to support that vis7a garbage and all the rest of retarded architectural dumbifications that Microsuck are trying to enforce, because of shit code they put out the first place. lol
No what they are doing by not supporting XP/dx9 is showing that this crap is an even cheaper port(because they're gonna have to put more time into making the port work for cutting edge retards like yourselves :P in the illusion that your new vis7a shit OS is so so much better because its newer and you're being sold it with new pc hardware lol. Fools like you and that br0kenclockwork idiot just don't understand, because you're too fucking blinded by your stupidity to think that a game not supporting XP is somehow going to be better, cleaner and efficient for that crap vis7a OS :P lol
kittomer
(10:26 AM CET - Feb,24 2010 )
Koogle, you are to gaming and computers what a street preacher in New York is to religion.
I could replace all of the computer lingo with bible passages, and it would still make the same twisted kind of sense. :)
Venom1
(11:36 AM CET - Feb,24 2010 )
I have XP Sp 3 and Win 7 32 and please, don't say Win 7 is better...
(01:40 PM CET - Feb,24 2010 )
Venom1> I have XP Sp 3 and Win 7 32 and please, don't say Win 7 is better...
Sure. Windows 7 still have bugs. Even AutoCAD doesn't work with Windows 7 properly :-)
I've Windows XP SP3 on my working/gaming PC and Windows 7 on my test-backup PC.
nb411
(02:44 PM CET - Feb,24 2010 )
Hook, line and sinker. :D
Koogle
(09:33 PM CET - Feb,24 2010 )
"Windows 7 still have bugs. "
problem is that its got more issues than just bugs, its got bad design flaws! bugs people can work around or just move on and find another way, design flaws are in your face all the time. Like the piss poor Explorer shell and just about everything that is associated with it and what was changed not for the better but for the worse. Not taking in the retarded architectural changes.
I'm someone who jumps onto the next best platform soon as everything I have in my current setup is taken care of, its a balance. Win7 just doesn't come close to offering anything of value or feature improvement just nothing but crap to me.
I can understand why some people find it ok, but then those same people aren't exactly on the same level of understanding the comparisons I make from my customized XP setup. If anything they compare defaulty Win7 install to a defaulty XP install, not taking in the fact that XP has far far more going for it in actual OS customization and improvements for those who bother to check. Or the more efficient performance in GFX (full gdi+ support and usage, you also don't have to use the useless FailAero gui, and where the customized visual styles look hideous on vis7a shell fuck up) Audio (fully hardware accelerated no drm and extra cpu wasting shit) CPU (explorer doesn't waste cycles on useless crap and poor coding) Memory (when tweaked far less service memory/cpu wasted to useless background processes than win7) not to mention again that so much of Vis7a isn't an improvement in anyway to XP at all just worse, and so far there haven't been any shell extensions or third party tools to improve on that win7 scrap its just hindered by poor vista design still.
So Win7 really only has dx11 to me, and even then I haven't seen any games worth wasting my time again on it for that even. For now Win7 is best left as a VM, because wasting a hdd partition on it would be pointless and I'd have no reason to ever boot it up.
"Even AutoCAD doesn't work with Windows 7 properly "
Most Adobe/Autodesk apps work and look like shit on Win7, and I just can't put myself through using such a fucked up looking explorer shell, its a waste of good pc hardware running crap OS like that. It's why I use XP64 pc for production work where I want all memory, otherwise XPsp3 most the time seeing as I can use a ramdisk to make use of that extra memory that way.
Ozieo
(07:13 AM CET - Feb,25 2010 )
Win7 SP3 will piss all over XP SP3 ! :D
Sabot
(04:12 PM CET - Feb,25 2010 )
Clockw0rk> If you have a computer that would run Just Cause 2 on max settings but haven't upgraded past XP... then you simply fail at PC gaming.
No one is forcing you to be ignorant about modern operating systems.
Excuse me, but try putting your brain in gear before operating your mouth!
Is this about about a well supported operating system? Nope, didn't think so either... It's about JC2 NOT supporting XP whilst nearly EVERY game that you can buy -currently- still doing so, ok.
This is about a pathetic attempt to sell an OS, just like Just Allan Wake is a PATHETIC buy-out by Gates on the XBox. This a$$hole is a cancer on the world of gaming! If gaming is to succede then it has to be on a LEVEL playing field.
Not EXCLUSIVES because of a monopoly.
If a game comes out on ALL platforms; ala GTA4, then it HAS to have all DLC or whatever content available as per release, if it isn't then it's because of a$$ wipes like Gates!
Try ACTUALY thinking constructively for once?
I BUY games/hardware and NOT companies,propaganda or the bull$hit that goes with it.
If you want to play Alan Wake ?you must own an Xbox. So much for Games for Windows eh... That's manipulative bull!! Want DLC for GTA4 on PC or PS3 -until recently- TOUGH! Buy an Xbox.
Want to play JC2? buy Vista or Win7 -even although YOUR hardware is perfectly capable of playing it...
Sorry, but your the gullable ignoramous for supporting these parasites -Ever heard of freedom of choice and speech?
Clearly not
Renton
(04:42 PM CET - Feb,25 2010 )
Let's rewind. Most people say the same things when Carmack forgot about Win98SE/Me and make Doom 3 WinXP exclusive.
The difference with old crap and new crap is that is better run with new crap. The WinsOS are never going to be "the greatest", but for de developers point of view is simply stupid still making code and patches to adresses issues on a 10 year old OS.
No mather what, if you are a gamer and you are running a machine that surpases by far WinVista/7 requirements, why dont you do it? Why stay with the old? Cause you are an ati-capitalism bastard? Cause you hate MS? Grown up! Win7 works like a Windows SO. With pros and cons. Is not better or worst than any other bullshit MS develops.
I personally said goodbye to XP in all my Desktop PCs and Notebooks the moment Win7 sees the light. I was testing the RC before that.
If I'm a dev, I'll also cut out x86 support.
Koogle
(06:12 PM CET - Feb,25 2010 )
"Carmack forgot about Win98SE/Me and make Doom 3 WinXP exclusive. "
You seem to forget that WinXP was a better OS than WIn98SE/ME, it was even better than Windows 2000, simply because it was win2k with extra good shit.
That fucking right there is the fcuking difference between WinXP and Winshi7e. XP is still overall a better more efficient OS, and I did upgrade from Win98SE straight to Windows2000, and then straight to WinXP, because the improvements were there, and the adverse side effects to existing apps, extensions were zero to none! It was a win/win
Unlike Vis7a which is a shit/shit, there is no balance of overall improvement on my current setup. None whatsoever.
What we have with Vis7a is a royal fuck up of epic proportions in stupid retarded noob design, crap changes, and pathetic improvements if you could even call them improvements. XP has been around 8years and it does still pisses all over vis7a, so much so that Vis7a still hasn't gotten anything that is so exclusive to it that I would actually want to use it.
So don't give me that bullshit, you can say goodbye to XP because you're fucking stupid and don't have the same better setup that I do on XP, because I ain't missing shit from Win7.
"Win7 SP3 will piss all over XP SP3 ! Very Happy"
I'd like to see you get a Win7 SP3 :P what you'll have is Windows Next, and going by the current path of releasing consumer crap, it will be crap. And you can think of it Win7SP3, Win7 however will never have the same marketing penetration and long term existance, simply because MS realized it was the biggest mistake to them making more money on constant upgrades, which XP put a holt to for those not stupid enough to have upgraded to Visteergh and then to the pathetic rebranded Winshi7e upgrade.
" I was testing the RC before that. "
so was I, and it was shit, not to mention they even did fix some of my bug/design issues that were reported, but no where near enough to make me want to use that garbage over my XP setup.
Renton
(06:18 PM CET - Feb,25 2010 )
Koogle> Every bullshit you say.
What I said is an opinion and I stick to that. Whatever gibilish you say I don't see any reason why 7x64 is worst than XPx86.
Also, I didn't insult you, so please treat me with a bit of respect. If you want to make a point there's no need of agression.
Koogle
(07:44 PM CET - Feb,25 2010 )
You can't see how 7x64 is worse than XPx86?
lets see one has an Explorer shell that is downright fucking shit, the other one has an Explorer shell that is far more extensible. Oh and XP64 has the same advantage.
How many more points to do you want that I haven't already been over... not to mention a shit load are already on this site http://www.windows7taskforce.com
It's not the opinion you have on Win7, I know plenty of people who just aren't as tech savvy and find Win7 just fine, but those same people aren't anywhere near on the same level of wanting enhanced power functionality, and intuitive/productive workflow in there OS environment. Or who even notice shit design, crap workflow, window layouts etc... piss poor lack of functionality and features, customization etc etc
Things like a fat iconized taskbar is wonderful to them, to me its naff gimmick, a fat iconized taskbar is rubbish, I can't stand document grouping the list of why certain features are crap when compared to other far better methods would just take far to long to explain to someone who just cannot understand and see how or why.
"Whatever gibilish you say "
and that right there is why you haven't a clue and probably never will.
So you keep your opinion of Win7 being better, but it does not, and cannot match my current OS environment setup, because if it did, I'd already using it.
Sabot
(07:58 PM CET - Feb,25 2010 )
Renton> No mather what, if you are a gamer and you are running a machine that surpases by far WinVista/7 requirements, why dont you do it? Why stay with the old? Cause you are an ati-capitalism bastard? Cause you hate MS? Grown up! Win7 works like a Windows SO. With pros and cons. Is not better or worst than any other bullshit MS develops.
No but you insulted me! Grow the f@*% up!! Keep your moronic personal attacks to yourself, you hypocrite.
What i chose is my opinion and NOT yours, i stated my reasons but no...you nicely skirt around it missing the fact i'm talking about games NOT being supported on the PC regardless of what $hit OS you use! (BIG FUCKING CLUE!!!!!! in the message, idiot ALAN WAKE!!!!!!! :roll: )
What is it with people NOT READING or understanding posts......... :evil: Just like to read their own opinion or something...??
Win98SE was only harped on about because it was the FIRST OS that we truly played 3DFX on, BUT it wasn't great at all.
Renton
(11:39 PM CET - Feb,25 2010 )
Koogle> another innecesary extended quote
So, i can see any performance differences in my machine with XP vs 7. So try to educate me, why XP is better than 7? Productivity? In what? I don't have "productivity" issues. Gaming? Left a side DX versions, the gamings performance in both are exactly the same.
I don't know where is that mytical creature hidden in the 7 code that eats my machine.
Stumpus> No but you insulted me! Grow the f@*% up!! Keep your moronic personal attacks to yourself, you hypocrite.
What i chose is my opinion and NOT yours, i stated my reasons but no...you nicely skirt around it missing the fact i'm talking about games NOT being supported on the PC regardless of what $hit OS you use! (BIG FUCKING CLUE!!!!!! in the message, idiot ALAN WAKE!!!!!!! :roll: )
What is it with people NOT READING or understanding posts......... :evil: Just like to read their own opinion or something...??
Win98SE was only harped on about because it was the FIRST OS that we truly played 3DFX on, BUT it wasn't great at all.
I agree with you in Alan Wake and other MS "Games for CrapBox but not for Windows" seal. I don't even refer to anything you say. Why you jump like that?
Koogle
(05:35 AM CET - Feb,26 2010 )
Renton> Koogle> another innecesary extended quote
So, i can see any performance differences in my machine with XP vs 7. So try to educate me, why XP is better than 7? Productivity? In what? I don't have "productivity" issues. Gaming? Left a side DX versions, the gamings performance in both are exactly the same.
I don't know where is that mytical creature hidden in the 7 code that eats my machine.
Look if you gonna quote me at least actually fucking quote what I have said, not just rewriting and misspelling things I never even wrote!
Now as for the point of you not noticing any performance differences, its already been reported benchmarked and proven that Win7 has slow gdi performance, its a joke. And considering that is 99% of all Windows software says alot.
Productivity = yes that thing that you gain from good design, unlike vis7a which has retarded design is so many areas and crap changes, so much so that settings and changes I could get to and make in a few clicks, suddenly becomes an effort of extra clicks all because of the crap UI layout/position/ location of settings options etc once again in the Explorer shell! how many times do I need to bring up that heap of shit.
Do you even know what the Explorer shell is!? it consists of useless crap changes like copy/replace/move dialog windows designed for retards with eye problems( no doubt the reason for excessive design size bloatage of so much in win7), things like the transfer dialog that forgets that you turned on show more information, so the next time you start a large file transfer you have to click it again. pathetic Open File dialogs, Explorer file manage, the shit useless breadcrumb bar navigation for retards. That shitting piece of junk called the control panel, where instead of things like closely related settings in ONE ui dialog separated by TABS, you now get a fucked up mess of settings all over the fucking place, ripped into separate pages. or the pathetically crap startmenu, where instead of just leaving in the option for an "All programs" pullout, they just thought this would be so much better if everyone had to look at installed programs through a fucking piddly frame window.
I mean I'm not going to waste my time on any more of the 100's of specific examples because you are just too ignorant, its impossible for you to see the obvious crap in 7, and why XP, simply because it doesn't have those crap changes, was is already ahead not even talking about what other advantages it still has, that 7 doesn't.
MS would have done a better job with Vis7a if they hadn't done any of the shit changes it made from XP, and had just offered under hood improvements, got rid of useless unnecessary services from starting up unintelligently, made extra API improvements! unlike what they actually did, added stuff like Dx11 support, instead of trying to fucking redesign the wheel through moron designers trying to appeal to audience of clueless sheep. Gimmicks that are tied into the FailAero GPU service that give the user no control over disabling individual settings like no taskbar preview processing of videos etc, putting the USER in control. Instead the developed a piece of locked down shit and hardcoded their own retarded settings through out, and only made what pathetic little settings available through registry settings that one is expected to go on search and find mission across the fucking internet because of good for nothing useless dev teams and program managers that twiddled there thumbs for a few fucking years and put out complete utter shit, that in so many cases single coders/developers have done a far fucking better job at releasing apps/extensions with far better features/functionality with more customization choices, it says a lot about the effort and idiots working at MS.
PS if you just took a look at how fucked up the FailAero GUI was like you might understand why it is such a fucking mess, and why when Aero is disabled the classic/xp style explorer shell visuals look like shit. Microscum have created an inconsistent pile of shit throughout its vis7arded OS, and its why so many applications GUI's have given up on adhering to the default OS visual theme and now adopt their own, because the default Vis7a one is a pile of stinking shit!
The glass effects just hides the crap GUI/UX design, allows them to hide away things like menus, actual functionality, allows them to get away with not putting in improved functionality!, because simpletards get confused, and like things looking really dumb. And this helps MS sell a new OS upgrade slighty less shit than the one before next time, not to mention that MS have deliberately tried to prevent shell extension developers from improving the explorer file browser, by removing support for toolbars and forcing them onto a single line menubar! And you don't wonder why ;) Its the same reason they have so much hardcoded to prevent users from just easily fixing the crap themselves, that way whatever shit MS decide to chuck out won't have any competition from its previous platform, bit like XP pissing all over Win7 because of the third party support it still has in shell extension that Win7 doesn't.
Eventually XP users will have no choice but to upgrade/jump platform, but right now I have no need to bother with Win7, maybe its successor will be a much better balance of overall improvement.
(10:00 AM CET - Feb,26 2010 )
Koogle> Eventually XP users will have no choice but to upgrade/jump platform, but right now I have no need to bother with Win7, maybe its successor will be a much better balance of overall improvement.
Windows 7 SP2 will be OK :D
Renton
(04:36 PM CET - Feb,26 2010 )
Wow Koogle, you hide a lot of rage... sorry but i still can't see all of those "design flaws" you wrote about.
Maybe cause you're just to acclimatized to WinXP, cuause for the most of it i do a lot less clicks for most of time in 7 compared to XP.
quote: Eventually XP users will have no choice but to upgrade/jump platform, but right now I have no need to bother with Win7, maybe its successor will be a much better balance of overall improvement.
Well, in July MS is going to put an end to XP support. So there's your "eventuallity".
Koogle
(11:53 PM CET - Feb,26 2010 )
"Well, in July MS is going to put an end to XP support. So there's your "eventuallity"."
I couldn't give a shit when MS thinks it ends support for XP, its not like they actually did fuck all anyway.
Or you one of the security bumkins who is dumb enough to think you're OS is protected by updates :P
" cuause for the most of it i do a lot less clicks for most of time in 7 compared to XP."
lol lie much? not to mention you ain't a power user, so your opinion is void.
"Wow Koogle, you hide a lot of rage... sorry but i still can't see all of those "design flaws" you wrote about. "
that is because you are an idiot, you'll never see design flaws because you are flawed. Never expect a noob to see the same things a professional would.
"Windows 7 SP2 "
No service pack ain't gonna fix up that shit in that junk OS, it needs a complete rethink on its design especially its top level GUI/UI design, however you will get updated spyware, and *cough* security updates ;)
Renton
(12:10 AM CET - Feb,27 2010 )
Hey, Koogle, i think you need a lot of ritalin and learn that not all the world is going to be agree with you. Specially if you try justify your ideas insulting.
Koogle
(07:42 AM CET - Feb,27 2010 )
I wouldn't care if all Winshi7e users didn't fucking agree with me on 7 being shit, Renton!
...and you can keep your ritalin :)
I won't waste my time baby talking obvious points, I doubt it would help that brain of yours understand obvious in your face flaws and poor design anyway.
Cleary you are beyond actually understanding, Vis7a was designed for and dedicated to an audience of idiots who could be easily sold on crap, like businesses, and IT retards etc
Best for all Microscum did its best as a Monopoly to force anyone who didn't want to fund and pay for crap upgrades like vis7a, by ending the XP license and forcing consumers into paying full price for its new poorly developed shit, and then downgrade to the better XPsp3/64 after having already paid extra.
And if you can't see what is obviously wrong in that or anything else about that vis7a shit you're using and supporting then you're a fool! And MS will carry on using devious software development lockins, and putting out crap and then offering later poor upgrades. You'll never have an OS like XP again because it was Microsucks worst mistake allowing XP to grow stronger in third party shell support. While they fumbled and fucked around with vista and then 7. And no doubt its Next os will try to go into a subscription model ;)
Renton
(07:53 AM CET - Feb,27 2010 )
Well, all you say doens't make any sense because you use XP. So everything you say about MS it applies directly to you also.
Your're talking like if you were Stallman about MS... like you're only Linux user.
Koogle
(08:51 AM CET - Feb,27 2010 )
"So everything you say about MS it applies directly to you also."
err there are fucking design differences between that Vis7a shite pile and its crap flaws...
compared to XPsp3/64.
It doesn't make any sense to you because you clearly never really took the time to enhance XP and see the advantages it still has over 7, and you're talking to someone who fully understands what Win7 can and cannot do and all its fucking pathetic flaws inbetween. It comes from eXPerience.
And you talk like clueless Win7 user, sad but true. I'm not a Linux user but it sure is sounding like the better more progressive path every year.
Renton
(03:48 PM CET - Feb,27 2010 )
This is getting bored so I'm going to end it now. From what you say in the last post, i pretty sure you modify your XP beyond EULA restrictions. So what? The same thing can be do to 7.
Goodbye!
Koogle
(09:24 PM CET - Feb,27 2010 )
ROFLMAO modifying XP beyond EULA restrictions.
LOLOLOLOLOL
"So what? The same thing can be do to 7. "
eer no it can't actually, and it hasn't happened yet..
you're clueless Renton, I'll be ending this :)
(09:51 PM CET - Feb,27 2010 )
See forum rules point 3
2) No verbal violence, flaming (beginning a fight) or "dirty-talk" is allowed: no swearing or using sexual loaded words.
Renton
(04:00 PM CET - Mar,01 2010 )
You're really ignorant if you don't know the unattended editions of XP, Vista and 7.
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