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John Romero: DOOM's Free Players Weren't Pirates - briefly
(hx) 11:15 PM CEST - Aug,07 2026 - Post a comment / read (2)
DOOM co-creator John Romero has pushed back against claims that piracy was a main driver of the game’s success and hurt id Software.

The discussion started after former id Software designer Sandy Petersen said 70–90% of DOOM players pirated the game, costing the studio millions.

Romero explained that original DOOM was released as shareware, with the first episode designed to be freely copied and shared legally.

He noted the game reached about 20 million free shareware installs and sold over 2 million full copies.

Those free players should not be counted as pirates, Romero said, because they used the game exactly as id Software intended.
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NakedFaerie(10:17 AM CEST - Aug,08 2026 )
Ok, now for the truth they dont like to hear.

I do pirate games and i buy those games I pirated so am I good or bad?
If I didnt pirate the game I most likely wont buy it.
I use piracy is a way to test the game like a demo.
Some demos ARENT the game, its a cut up part that looks just like the game but not the game. Resident evil is a perfect xample. Their demos are NOT in the game, its like an extra little bit.
So no you cant play a demo as its not the full game and some things are different.
Its a smaller size so will the full game fit?
Its smaller so less intense so will the full game work?
the demo might leave out some controller support where the full game has it.
There are many factors that come into play between a demo and a full game.
So its best to play a pirate copy to make sure its all good and if you like it then puy it. I do.
I personally got "Journey to the savage planet" I knew nothing of the game, and I wanted to try it out, it looked interesting.
So I downloaded the pirated version.
30 mins in and I thought this is funny Im going to buy it. I played about another hour and stopped, I didnt want to spoil more, I'll buy it tomorrow and play it then.
That was on PC where I pirated it. Next dayI brought it on PS4. finished it. Got it on Xbox, finished it. Got the DLC on PD4, finished it, DLC on xbox.
Found it on switch so Got it all there too and finished it.
Got a steam deck so brought it on steam.
It came free on epic so got it there.

So I own all the copies of it.

So, now what do you say about piracy? You think its bad? You have no idea about anything.
So the guys who made that game HAVE to love piracy. I brought 4 copies of thier game, and the sequel, so far I've brought 2 but its in 2 more wish lists. Well, its not on switch but if it comes out I will get it. I havent got it on xbox yet but I will soon.

So there you go. 1 game, multiple sales all due to piracy. So your lies about piracy is a loss of sale is a lie.

Yes I have downloaded pirated games and not brough them. BUT would I have brought them without piracy? No. So its not a loss of sale when I wasnt going to buy it anyway.
And some games I've got, played, hated so I saved my money.
I have got refunds on Steam for a bad game, all the piracy does is stop the buy and refund situation.

I dont see piracy as a bad thing. I've brought many games because of piracy.
Pragmata is the latest. I didnt want to buy it. Didnt like it.
It finally got the DRM removed then I got it, played it and brought it on PS5.
I hated the story ending so I wont buy it anywhere else.
If I finished the pirated copy I wouldn;t have brought it. The ending sucks.
I wont be getting it anywhere else for the ending.1 purchase is enough for me.

So there you go. Piracy is NOT bad, its needed. The PS store and stwich store refuse refunds so how can you test out a game? you cant. So you have to rely on a PC pirated copt to test it as the cost is so high and many of us cant afford to buy a bad game.

If you dont like paracy, then dont play games.
If the game devs dont like paracy then dont add harsh DRM and make a better game.

Look at the stitch store. 99% is junk and prices are a ripoff.
I see games in steam for $20 and in the switch store its $120. LOL, yea right. You really think Im going to buy it from there? no chance. THATS why we pirate and dont pay.
When its at a better price we will but not before.
My wishlists are huge. I wait for sales then I buy games. The prices of games are just stupid.
Another game, its in switch for $60. I think I saw it on PS5 for $5 on sale and its like $20 full price now. So tell me again WHY would I pay $60 for it?
I have steam deck with remote play so I can play it in handheld mode so I dont need a switch to play it that way.

Piracy has ALWAYS been around.
The people complaining about piracy, think about this. THEY most likely recorded a song from the radio to a tape and played that tape. THATS PIRACY!
They copied a DVD to VCR. THATS PIRACY.
They copied a CD to MP3, again PIRACY.
They copied MP3s from itunes to a USB stick then into the car. THATS PIRACY.

So how can you do 1 form of piracy and complain about another?
Hypocrites much?

Grow up people. Piracy has been around for longer than you've been alive. We've seen it evolve and its not stoppable.
When there are greedy companies there will always be a need for piracy.

Its just those greedy people wanting more money.

Piracy is NOT a loss of sales as I've proven to you. MANY pirates still buy games, and many people have a huge wishlist where they are waiting for the price to drop as they refuse to pay full price as its too much.

So complain all you wait. All your doing is making yourself look selfish and greedy and stupid. WHY are you complaining when your doing it yourself?

Sabot(12:08 AM CEST - Aug,09 2026 )
quote:
Romero explained that original DOOM was released as shareware, with the first episode designed to be freely copied and shared legally.

He noted the game reached about 20 million free shareware installs and sold over 2 million full copies.

And I was one of them.

Then I got the whole 4 floppy lot of them: which I still have.

Back then people had a bit of pride. We wanted manuals, keycards and the box - I used to pin ALL my pc boxes on the wall.

Now, no one gives a fuck cause the industry fucked itself… :roll:

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