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ggrobot Elite Member
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 45825
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:45 am Post subject: Steam Precludes Class Action Lawsuits [33377] |
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Valve announced an updated Steam Subscriber Agreement, becoming the latest company to attempt to avoid potential class action lawsuits by prohibiting them as a term of service. Here is their explanation of this:
We\'re also introducing a new dispute resolution process that will benefit you and Valve. Recently, a num
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gx-x Elite Member
Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 2545
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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they can scribble whatever they want into EULA, in the end, country laws and constitution precedes their EULA. It will even be rendered invalid and non-applicable if it is in contradiction with the (country) law. Needless to say, most countries have different laws then those from USA. In my country for instance you cannot make a valid contract that makes you give up on any of your civil rights given to you by constitution. Those contracts are considered invalid by default. So, if STEAM f*uks something up bad enough to get bunch of Serbians angry, we can sue their asses however we want because company will be answering to and according to Serbian law because they sold their "service" here and are sued by "customers" from Serbia. This is only an example.
You can see similar cases already happened in Sweden, Norway etc. where some dumb ass USA companies tried to pull some shit on forementioned country's citizens only to find out that USA laws don't apply (to their great disbelief xD ) everywhere in the world, unless USA threatens a country with a nuke or military intervention kind of "law". |
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El_Coyote Elite Member
Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 611
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Yup
EULA's are not legally binding in my country and not worth the bandwith cost of transferring it. |
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Sabot Elite Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2083 Location: The Dark Side of The Moon
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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It happened with M$ and IE in Europe. They were ordered to let customers have the option of choosing a browser and removing IE. The rest is history, they lost, we won.
As usual, the US think they are above the law. Sell in their own country then? Our statutory rights on the Internet for eg cover us for 7 days when buying, we have the right for a full refund if goods do not match description or are not fit for purpose etc under the distance selling act. Valve in other words conforms to our law when selling in our country.
Why do you think Amazon, QVC sell in their own countries? To cover these rules for each nation/country.
North America differs too. |
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Baconnaise Elite Member
Joined: 22 Jun 2010 Posts: 710
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Sadly this just makes me upset that consumer protections among other things have been slowly stripped away or left antiquated by inaction here. Hey Illinois did pass a Facebook password law though (who the fuck cares). |
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