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Windows 10: gaming on steroids - DX12 - tech
(hx) 11:06 AM CET - Jan,22 2015 - Post a comment / read (12)
Microsoft has had great success with Xbox Live, and it's now time to extend that to phones, tablets, and desktop PCs. From phone to tablet to console to PC, Phil Spencer has promised that the gaming experience will be great for everyone on any Windows 10 device. With DirectX 12, the company is offering game developers access "closer to the metal" than ever before, allowing them to tap into the full potential of today's powerful multi-core processors. Games will be able to run up to 50% faster even on the current DirectX 11 hardware. That will be especially important for open world games, which tend to be very CPU-bound. The machine with DirectX 12 handled the stress very well, managing to maintain decent framerate even with many more graphical elements to display in the cityscape scene. Here's a video to show you the difference:



With DirectX 12, the biggest surprise is cross-platform gaming. Spencer announced that Unity has adopted the new API, and games such as Fable Legends will allow people on PC and Xbox One to play together. He also revealed that Unreal Engine will also support the new standard in upcoming games.
last 10 comments:
Csimbi(06:12 PM CET - Jan,22 2015 )
Considering that it's MS's last chance at keeping gamers on Windows, the hype is understandable.
Clearly, the marketing machinery has started turning its clogs and it seems to pull on the - good old - right strings.
I wonder how much of this will be actually true on production releases...

Tom(07:05 PM CET - Jan,22 2015 )
I'll believe it when it comes out. Kind of nice that upgrading to Win10 will be free from Win7. Not overly comfortable with the upgrade process but worth a shot. Glad to see DX12 will actually do something worthwhile. Again, believe it when it comes out.

Thudo(02:54 AM CET - Jan,23 2015 )
So W10 will be able to actually play Xbone games? Seems like an absolute no brainer as current cheap PC tech has superseded the Xbone already. :roll:

Anyway, I can see big problems one year out when we all start to RENT OUR OS. Ha.. thank gawd for the crackers though -- they'll be one step ahead as they have since.. forever. :D Enterprises will get their own variant of the OS and some of us will use some sort of OEM version as its logistically impossible for some of us to have an Internet connection all the time to always call home with.

The future is... rent-able. :?

Csimbi(10:17 AM CET - Jan,23 2015 )
Thudo> So W10 will be able to actually play Xbone games? Seems like an absolute no brainer as current cheap PC tech has superseded the Xbone already. :roll:

Anyway, I can see big problems one year out when we all start to RENT OUR OS. Ha.. thank gawd for the crackers though -- they'll be one step ahead as they have since.. forever. :D
Where'd you read that it'll run XDOS games?

Subscription-based OS is a retarded idea, yes, on so many levels.
"I'd like to rent an OS for this evening." lol

I guess MS intends to take a shot at the 'most pirated OS' title once again, lol.
But, I guess they'd still make some money (it's unlikely that 100% of the users will use a pirate copy).

Thudo(02:04 PM CET - Jan,23 2015 )
quote:
Where'd you read that it'll run XDOS games? It would work but yeah they wouldn't want far superior h/w taking away there business from obviously far inferior tech. Is Xbone games and simply play with W10 players? Meh... :?

gx-x(02:46 PM CET - Jan,23 2015 )
Csimbi> Considering that it's MS's last chance at keeping gamers on Windows, the hype is understandable.
Clearly, the marketing machinery has started turning its clogs and it seems to pull on the - good old - right strings.
I wonder how much of this will be actually true on production releases...

Where would games go in case W10 fails? There is no other gaming platform for PC.

Csimbi(04:14 PM CET - Jan,23 2015 )
The platform will be still PC. Just a different OS. Linux or Android OS.
Already started for Linux, but those guys don't have the resources, to it's going slow.
Looking at Google's attitude towards MS, I'd think we will see an Android OS soon enough. Google has the resources.

gx-x(04:21 PM CET - Jan,23 2015 )
Csimbi> The platform will be still PC. Just a different OS. Linux or Android OS.
Already started for Linux, but those guys don't have the resources, to it's going slow.
Looking at Google's attitude towards MS, I'd think we will see an Android OS soon enough. Google has the resources.

Andorid, on each phone I had, behaves like win 95. Reinstall mandatory every 4 months.

Only alternatives to win 10 will be win 7 and win 8.1. Let's not joke about Linux please. Fruit Ninja is a toilet pass time game. Currently you can barley play diablo 2 on Linux.

edit: to elaborate: I think we need evolution in gaming, not degradation. We badly need directX 12 or AMD mantle. If they manage to port DirectX to Linux - good. Otherwise, Linux has nothing. OpenGL developers are endangered species. Last modern game in OGL was Rage and it had TONS of problems (depending on hardware) and it was developed by, dare I say, the best OGL devs out there.

Thudo(05:14 PM CET - Jan,23 2015 )
W10 cannot fail because too many enterprises like Big Banks use WinX products. All of their legacy apps I work on won't be working on Linux/RedHat/non-WinX any time soon and they need these working all the time as it impacts business.

I don't see W10 failing so long as it gives Big Enterprise a reason to migrate (which provides me 5-7 years of work btw) but for gaming? We'll see how well DX12 has been optimized verses the OTHER API(s).

All I know is, like 8/8.1, W10 has a very efficient kernel and installs/runs quite nicely and ESPECIALLY on a cheap SSD. WOW! Day-to-day rudimentary operations trump all over time.

Now if only we had the next gen FILE SYSTEM like HSFS as NTFS is frick'n almost 20 years old for GAWD'S SAKE!!!!! Also, WHERE IS MY 128-BIT OS?!!?!?! GAHHH!!!!!!

gx-x(06:02 PM CET - Jan,23 2015 )
Thudo> W10 cannot fail because too many enterprises like Big Banks use WinX products. All of their legacy apps I work on won't be working on Linux/RedHat/non-WinX any time soon and they need these working all the time as it impacts business.

I don't see W10 failing so long as it gives Big Enterprise a reason to migrate (which provides me 5-7 years of work btw) but for gaming? We'll see how well DX12 has been optimized verses the OTHER API(s).

All I know is, like 8/8.1, W10 has a very efficient kernel and installs/runs quite nicely and ESPECIALLY on a cheap SSD. WOW! Day-to-day rudimentary operations trump all over time.

Now if only we had the next gen FILE SYSTEM like HSFS as NTFS is frick'n almost 20 years old for GAWD'S SAKE!!!!! Also, WHERE IS MY 128-BIT OS?!!?!?! GAHHH!!!!!!

We were talking about enthusiasts and win 10. Every day use for media, games etc. What windows lacks atm, and windows XP didn't lack is customization options. It looks ugly and plain and metro. I want to skin it, nwm I am not a child but I still want to customize it :P

Thudo(06:19 PM CET - Jan,23 2015 )
Absolutely agree. W10 should be that as there are options to get rid of that dumbed-down retarded Metro and "sorta" go back to Aero.

Seriously, they need to have an OS again that does the common-sense thing: switch between smarter/enterprise look then another to dumb-it-down for mobiles. Like Skype for PC verses Mobiles.. huge difference in terms of features and functionality.

If you want to "Ghay-Out" and make things simple go with a Mobile set but for a REAL MAN who wants to work in the REAL BIZ WORLD, give me a rich experience that can be deployed and configured so I can do meaningful work with. So frick'n sick and tired of this general "dumbing down" going on all around to satisfy the ADHD-based masses. FCUK we're all being forced into some sort of grand de-evolution. :x

Csimbi(09:22 AM CET - Jan,24 2015 )
That's right. I want customization. So I can turn off all that flashy bling-bling and make it usable the way I want it (i.e. no metro rubbish).
Plus, it should perform while secure.

The Windows 10 Build 9926 Enterprise Technical Preview was just released.
Links:
Yadayada
x86
x64
I might grab it to see how that customization is working out for me right now.

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