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Unreal Tournament 2004 - in-house
(hx) 02:32 AM CEST - Jun,03 2004 - Post a comment / read (49)
So there's Unreal Tournament 2004, sequel to Unreal Tournament 2003 released 18 months ago. Was it worth the wait? Definitely! I've been playing a lot of UT2004 these past couple of weeks and haven't enjoyed an on-line FPS this much since Team ...read a full review [Atari]
last 10 comments:
unrealposted - Jun, 03 2004 - 04:04
We have a HL2/Doom3 Killer!!!

Phreezer Burnposted - Jun, 03 2004 - 04:09
The only difference between this and 2k3 is the vehicles and the classic assult but it makes all the difference. Deathmatch is lame since you can use the impact hammer alone and lead the server by more than 10 kills which is to much. I would like to see all games move to the Tribes/BF1942 vehicle gameplay because it breathes life into an FPS. This is more like a game add-on since most of the old maps remain and no new graphic changes really but I recommend it for a purchase.

posted - Jun, 03 2004 - 07:20
ASSAULT MODE OWNZ

drakulaposted - Jun, 03 2004 - 09:09
Nice review hx, this game is fun!

POLOposted - Jun, 03 2004 - 09:37
Great Games......So the SAGA Continues............ Will love to play with 10-12 Players..... It Rocks......

Fake FX5900posted - Jun, 03 2004 - 13:34
If HX says UT2004 rocks, then it rocks. period.

Dr John Beckerposted - Jun, 03 2004 - 15:03
HX - what's up with the KilliFish.biz advert? Their website is buggy. Can't you get another online casino to sponser you? :(

Tower of Babelposted - Jun, 03 2004 - 19:11
first game ive bought in years. Its great and the mods are gonna be comming out like crazy. Im even looking into uscript coding. Great engine, great editors, great modability.

Tomposted - Jun, 03 2004 - 19:42
Ya? What mods are coming out like crazy? That's the problem with UT community. No quality mods and bleakness towards the future. Reason being why they had the million dollar contest, to try and attract modders. And the modders there are are putting out repetitive unimaginative mods. Deathball, ripped from HalfLife, CarBall or whatever they call it a ripoff of Deathball. Troopers, ripoff of Jedi Knight. Then you got your CS clones etc.. Great engine, zero mod development and no originality. You can have a great game but if you got no real modding community then it's just UT and that's it. Same story for UT, UT2k3 and now UT2k4. All same crap or ported crap. I play UT2k4 on and off but general game play is boring/repetitive. This isn't a flame and actually I was participating in a mod for UT2k3 called Faceoff that died when the lead designers main interest was winning a prize('was' $800), then he left the project after further lies to the team and his own collegues. the whole team collapsed after that. Was our mod original? Well it was going to be but we couldn't find any developers as they were all involved in the contest. Hegi eventually did win and he has left UT all together apparently looking at modding for HL2, (is there a contest for that too, I wonder) I've yet to see an great mod for UT2KX or hear of a good one that has interested me. As for HX's review I think he over rated this game, but from reading it I'd say it's biased on the part he actually plays it alot.

posted - Jun, 03 2004 - 21:26
wow HX!! u own!! ur too quick in posting reviews!!! not

FREEtheWEEDposted - Jun, 03 2004 - 22:10
The only thing needed to make this the best on-line game is to stop the cheaters and the hacks.

P7posted - Jun, 03 2004 - 22:41
WHAT! no good mods! you are crazy, have you played ALIEN SWARM! awesome Mod http://www.blackcatgames.com/swarm/ , or Red Orchestra http://www.redorchestramod.com/ plus great new maps and packs coming out all the time :)

Jaredposted - Jun, 03 2004 - 22:58
Actually from looking back at Tom's comments he said that he tried Red Orchestra and he didnt like it (And besides its a copy of BF1942 and Call of Duty).

El_Coyoteposted - Jun, 03 2004 - 23:00
tom You cant have everyone making mods come up with new gameideas. you sound like you expect each team to reinvent fire.

El_Coyoteposted - Jun, 03 2004 - 23:01
oh and by the way - Alien Swarm reminds me of Space Hulk (Games Workshop tabletop game conversion)

Joeposted - Jun, 03 2004 - 23:14
(yawn...)

chrisposted - Jun, 04 2004 - 02:13
nice review man this game is fun .. i never get board...

P7posted - Jun, 04 2004 - 02:13
well all the better eh, buy one game UT2k4 and get many many games in one! awesome idea, thanks ;) wow, so i buy ut2k4 and i get Unreal, Half-life, space hulk, bf1942, call of duty and many more all for free! give me more reason why this game is awesome ;)

clones!!posted - Jun, 04 2004 - 02:14
just about everything is a rip of something else now adays. You may not know at the time but im pretty sure that about 95% of the mods/convertions you can find a game that is close to it. I like tactcial shooters but i dont like them all even though some games are clones you have to look for the small things that make them diffirent. Thats where you will find originality or at very least playablility.

Tower of Babelposted - Jun, 04 2004 - 02:18
tom: I agree with a lot of what you said... I dunno why in the hell people want to make mods of games or other mods that already exist.. its like WTF? be original or dont bother.. but still ive looked into unreal script and i think it is the most easily moded and widely configureable engine to date. You cant beat that and probably wont until unreal 3. And about the mods; There are already several mods out for this game and even though jailbreak has been done before, the mod has outstanding quality and i find it fun (ive never played it before). Red orchestra does suck methinks but thats just my opinion. Ive tried a few little-known mods and some of them are pretty fun and original, but there are no or few servers for them cause no one knows about them and they are still kinda buggy. Mutators are cool also because a mutator can change the game a lot and be very small and downloaded right from the server. For only being in existance for this long though, there is a ton of community-created stuff for this game.

VooDooposted - Jun, 04 2004 - 09:18
till half life2, or Doom3, this game iz za best, multiplayer rocks. It`s one of the best games i ever played, buy the original!

Wolfentsteinposted - Jun, 04 2004 - 12:08
Sorry, but i like Wolfenstein ET better, though i enjoy a game of UT 2004 from time to time

Tomposted - Jun, 04 2004 - 15:34
lets see in a year from now just how much this game gets modded. Then you can come back here and apologize to me. Thanks. The engine is great. The code is nice. But as a coder for the community, which 3/4 of you aren't. The community is and always has been bleak for UT. Alien Swarm is not an original mod. Red Orchestra is not an original mod. EVERYTHING for Ut so far is a ripoff or unoriginal. You think someone is going to leave HalfLife to play UT? right.. Upgrade their machine and play the same game on a different engine. Uh huh.. I love that, you have to look at small things to make them different. I think Ut and the engine is great but when it comes to mods. There's nothing original on the horizon and there is nothing currently available that's original.

Tomposted - Jun, 04 2004 - 15:37
I do play UT2k4 occasionally as well but unfortunately lose interest in about 30mins. And as some of you mention the code is easy and stuff, well I hope this ease attracts more development for UT but as I said, haven't heard any haven't seen any.

posted - Jun, 04 2004 - 21:02
Oh my god!! How slow can you be hx?! This game was released 3 months ago!!!

nameposted - Jun, 05 2004 - 01:26
but he is alene you sucker

TRUEPATRIOTINDIANposted - Jun, 05 2004 - 01:31
Hey anonymous its better to be nice and slow than a hurried review I see reviews at other sites like gamespy gamespot gamezone gamershell too but HXs reviews are a must for me due to the forum And cuz his reviews are of a totally different flavour and BTW this games running in a p3 866 with a GeForce2 MX also. And i am gonaa upgrade soon could u guys plz suggest me somethin cuz i live in INDIA where hardware reaches late and is pricey as hell. I am gonna go for a NVIDIA and AMD combination with 512 ddr could u guys help me a bit especially on the grafix card

Corona&Limesposted - Jun, 05 2004 - 01:51
BEST VOICE OVER IP PERIOD. Full 3D voice over IP with speaker muting when U press the F key to speak, way better than CS/Half-life voip technology. voip like no other. Now you can play with your speakers cranked, and a mic around your neck or desk, press the speak key F and sound is muted while u speak. Great Job, Tim Sweeney and company, U guys ownzzz!!

Dr John Beckerposted - Jun, 05 2004 - 05:26
LAMERS, LAY OFF HX... at least he is reviewing a FPS, instead of some stupid MMORPG or Sims expansion pack.

thisgameposted - Jun, 05 2004 - 10:59
Do you guys plan on buy this game every year? seems like the same game to me except a few updates. Imagine buying windows every year, that would suck.

Ihopenooneposted - Jun, 05 2004 - 11:01
So instead of updating their game for free like everyone else they are charging for it, totally lame.

Bill Gatesposted - Jun, 05 2004 - 11:19
To THISGAME. You do buy the same copy of Windows every couple of years!!! I just give Windows a new GUI and add some new useless software which came from companies we bought out since the last release. =)

El_Coyoteposted - Jun, 05 2004 - 15:15
"Do you guys plan on buy this game every year? seems like the same game to me except a few updates. Imagine buying windows every year, that would suck." theres not going to be a UT every year. 2004 is a major improvement to 2003.. hence the trae in rebate.

tigermonkposted - Jun, 05 2004 - 21:11
i've been playing the demo nonstop since i downloaded it 2 days ago (literally, my girlfriend is pissed lol) but this game fucking rocks! i haven't played a good fps like this for a long time, ever since quake3 came out. i'm totally buying the full game asap.

thisgameposted - Jun, 05 2004 - 22:22
You know what bill gates I am starting to suspect you are not the real deal with that comment, you shouldn't say something like that you dummy.

Bill Gatesposted - Jun, 06 2004 - 06:47
I take back my last comment. I was drunk when I posted it. =D What I meant to say was every release of Windows(tm) is another evolutionary step towards making your computing experience easier, faster and MORE FUN! =D

Cartmanposted - Jun, 06 2004 - 09:18
Well, if you average out the price of Windows over the three years or so between versions you're spending the equivalent of getting UT every year. Plus at least UT works and doesn't need 25 patches a week. =D

Normalposted - Jun, 06 2004 - 14:10
The mods I would welcome to this release are: Chaos (UT) Superheroes (Q2) Unreal 4ever (UT) They are fun, awesome, and original. :)

Jaredposted - Jun, 06 2004 - 17:06
Yo HX, can you review Thief 3 next? I have the game and i'd like to see your opinions on it.

JKposted - Jun, 07 2004 - 03:03
Just as crap as the other UT games....i keep getting telefragged by people that can't win any other way.

Steve Ballmerposted - Jun, 07 2004 - 05:23
give me quake anyday

lamerposted - Jun, 07 2004 - 10:34
JK, maybe you just cant play?

satanposted - Jun, 07 2004 - 11:27
Jared - Thief 3 is shite.

Tomposted - Jun, 07 2004 - 15:42
Rebate on valid in USA. @Bill Gates he said "every" year not couple of years, every year. I agree, ut2k4 should have been an upgrade. Not only that but I talked to dev's prior to ut2k4 to put it on dvd, no no couldn't do that, that's for the special promotion. Now I'm stuck with a 6 cd mess here. Thanks Epic! @Jared, what do you think of Theif?

Sawnoffposted - Jun, 08 2004 - 19:27
Wicked game,worth buying just for Onslaught.

Jaredposted - Jun, 12 2004 - 18:36
To Tom- I think Thief 3 is actually insanely Awesome!!! The only thing that sucks about it is that the ragdoll effect sometimes sucks.

Ckingposted - Jun, 26 2004 - 11:02
ONSLAUGHT OWNAGE...TRUE TEST OF SKILL. props to all the people that agree :D

KoLdDoOmposted - Dec, 11 2004 - 15:49
Carball mod=ownage

Ramirezposted - Dec, 11 2004 - 21:34
To all those people who complain about mods in UT being simply copies of other things, hasnt it struck you that there has been very few completely new things added to FPS gaming since around unreal1. Rainbow 6 heralded one of the first realisim shooters out, which is what counterstrike copied - so why the hate against frag ops or red orchestra? I have found that the UT communtity has been probably the most creative of any FPS game (possibly excepting quake1, damn that was a good game), mods like air buccaneers and Lazy Matrix(for the first UT)have been well done and implemented. And about it just being a small update for UT2K3, it isnt. It is more like making a leap from counter strike to BF1942. Basically the same core gameplay, with a few huge changes that change the surface of the entire game. Doubling the number of maps, adding a few new gametypes and mutators, throwing in more player models and adding vehicles is more than most sequels get in. Halo 2 for xbox only managed to put in a few things like dual-weilding and vehicle takeovers, but it is said to be one of the greatest sequels ever. Lastly about onslaught being the true test of skill, Id have to say thats deathmatch

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