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RockStar On Grand Theft Auto IV PC Bugs - interview
(hx) 04:50 PM CET - Dec,06 2008 - Post a comment / read (5)
PC.IGN has posted an interesting interview with a number of Rockstar employees, including Lead QA Arthur Chiang, Technical Director Kevin Hoare, and VP of Development Jeronimo Barrer, as they talk about Grand Theft Auto IV PC Bugs:
IGN: Can you talk about what you're working on right now, like a patch?

Kevin Hoare: We've never stopped working on the game, we're working on it every day. We haven't had the typical break after it's gone gold. We're continually working on improvements, we're working on a patch right now.

IGN: Can you say what the patch will address and what sort of timetable there might be?

Kevin Hoare: We've done some improvements to the video editor and the rendering engine for the replay editor. We've added, again from feedback from the forums, we initially didn't support direct-input controller devices and people seemed to want that, so we added support for direct-input devices. I think there was an issue with bowling…

Arthur Chiang: We read that some people with sensitive mice were having trouble with the bowling mini-game so we looked into that more and we've got a fix for that. There's a bunch of little UI tweaks because we've come a long way in our video editing prowess and we've been slowly increasing the user functionality to make things easier for what we want to do with it.

Jeronimo Barrera: Let's not beat around the bush here. There's a lot of noise like this game doesn't run at all or there's missing textures and everything else. From what we've gathered a lot of those problems are either out of date drivers or we don't support that type of card or you're underspecced or whatever, it's always a combination of one of those things, it's not necessarily that we don't know what we're doing because obviously we put in hundreds and hundreds of hours of test into this. From what we did and from going through certification with Microsoft and our external QA process we didn't run into the amount of problems that the boards seemed to be saying there are. I know that Nvidia and ATI are constantly...I think they're releasing new drivers pretty soon.
According to this post in GTA forums, The patch for the PC version of Grand Theft Auto IV will be released in the next few days, here's a list of what it will fix:

We are working on making a patch available in the next few days. Since Grand Theft Auto IV is a Games For Windows - Live game the patch must be certified by Microsoft before release. The patch is already at Microsoft and we expect a speedy approval. The patch contains a variety of fixes including:

- A fix to the crash after legal screen that some German customers were reporting.
- Numerous improvements to the video editor: Smarter naming of videos, improved rendering quality, better fx during replays
- Fix to bowling while using certain sensitive mice
- Fix for ATI 1900 shadows
- Overall savings to memory
- Graphic improvements to particle systems and mirrors
- Multiplayer character settings are preserved
- Support for DirectInput controllers. Note: The current hack way of supporting these controllers may not work with the improved functionality. So we recommend you remove the hack before upgrading to the patch.

Issues with power management software have also been fixed (slow speed, double speed issues). Even after the patch comes out setting power management software to maximum performance is recommended. We've seen cases where power management software does not detect the game is running and puts the CPU in green mode. Besides the patch we've also improved the way the Social Club handles data this should have greatly reduced or eliminated the Mma10 error. If you are still receiving this error after logging in and out of Social Club we would like to know as much info as you can about it.
last 10 comments:
Renton(06:46 PM CET - Dec,06 2008 )
ggrobot> We've done some improvements to the video editor and the rendering engine for the replay editor.

WTF? The game looks like crap out of an scotish toilet and this is your concern?

ggrobot> Let's not beat around the bush here. There's a lot of noise like this game doesn't run at all or there's missing textures and everything else. From what we've gathered a lot of those problems are either out of date drivers or we don't support that type of card or you're underspecced or whatever, it's always a combination of one of those things, it's not necessarily that we don't know what we're doing because obviously we put in hundreds and hundreds of hours of test into this. From what we did and from going through certification with Microsoft and our external QA process we didn't run into the amount of problems that the boards seemed to be saying there are. I know that Nvidia and ATI are constantly...I think they're releasing new drivers pretty soon.

I' think we are not talking about the same game here... is the GTA IV the title your comments are?

Cuase i follow every single freaking step, rule, update (tons of them) to get the game going wel and... it looks like sh*t!!! Even the posible lowest setting is unplayable and in the most extreme settings... o... sorry... you restrict us from bench that... WTH?!?! PC's can use Sytem Memory to adresses the textures that not fits in the VRAM, Assholes!!! Why the f*ck i have 4 gigs of DDR3!! We don't have a memory restricition like the consoles!
And that idiotic excuse of "It's prepared for the Future hardware" is so lame. Just cause your patetic engine could not adresses the memory well.

The PC resources are not improved for anything in the world. I'have 3 of my 4 cores running almost 100% percent and the other always almost idle, my system memory less than 60% in use and the GPU load is about 65%

And also we have to tolerate the Rockstar Social Club, Games For Windows Live! and that estupid DRM Securrom that has been totally cracked in less than 10 hours.

[color=red:599422311e]Total disaster![/color:599422311e]

All of you are the dumbiest devs ever.

Sorry for my english, i'm from Argentina.

Ozieo(09:52 PM CET - Dec,06 2008 )
The biggest pile of bugs and bloat ever created.

<cynic>Well done Rockstar, hopefully the protection and the positive rumours will boast your sale numbers !!!! .......... </cynic>

Sabot(02:30 PM CET - Dec,07 2008 )
Renton> WTF? The game looks like crap out of an scotish toilet and this is your concern?


Sorry for my english, i'm from Argentina.


Isn't that a contradiction in terms! :lol:

Should be sorry for dissing scotland, i personaly don't go annalysing what the difference between English shit and Scottish shit looks like -you look like you do :wink:

Anyway, away and buy a PS3 or XBox if you want a bug free game of GTA4. The devs on PC can't code to save themselves these days (although neither can Lionhead on the XBox LOL!) :roll: I remember when this came out on console and there wasn't a rumour that this was even coming out on PC, it looks like it was an after thought and a last minute decision.
Oh and renton was great in Trainspotting ;)

strangestsensation(01:33 AM CET - Dec,08 2008 )
I look forward to seeing if your views of GTA4 are true. Installing now. :P

strangestsensation(04:49 AM CET - Dec,10 2008 )
This game is great. I certainly don't share any of your negativity in this thread towards Rockstar or this game. I have about 20 some hours in it and it's been nothing but enjoyable. The game has frozen on me twice but I hit power and shutdown and I'm playing within 2mins again. No biggie! I agree with most everything they've said and got the new nvidia drivers and so far no more crashes.

Rockstar has always been a great provider and they showed me they still care about PC with this release. This is a big game so I expect more than 1 patch. Hell, I give the game so far a 9/10 at this point(if I was a reviewer). And this is by no means exaggeration. It's much better than I expected and I've played all previous ones! With mods and the online side of it all, this game is gonna be a hoot!

I'm glad I didn't take your comments into consideration when I bought this. I could have ended up passing up on a good game. For shame!! :twisted:

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