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Nvidia Fermi successor called Kepler, coming 2011 - tech
(hx) 07:44 PM CEST - Sep,22 2010 - Post a comment / read (9)
Exciting stuff at the end of Jen-Hsun Huang's GTC keynote as Nvidia's CEO has presented a roadmap depicting the next two GPU architectures currently in the works at the Santa Clara company. Fermi's successors are known as Kepler and Maxwell and are scheduled to launch in 2011 and 2013, respectively. Kepler will be based on a 28-nanometer fabrication process, and Nvidia intends for it to be nearly three times more efficient, in DP FLOPS per watt, than today's Fermi architecture. Huang noted that such an improvement goes "far beyond" what process technology advances alone can achieve. Changes in the chip architecture, design, and software will contribute to that advance, as well. The Maxwell architecture will come next, in 2013, and will be produced on a 22-nm fabrication process. Maxwell promises nearly an 8X increase in DP FLOPS per watt beyond today's Fermi chips. Huang noted that, in parallel computing, power is the primary constraint, which is why he chose that metric to describe future architectures.
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psolord(09:44 PM CEST - Sep,22 2010 )
That three times better GF per watt is a total scam.

If you have a 2X2cm=400mm^2 chip at 40nm, when you scale it down, you will get 28/40=07 x 2cm = 1.4 cm per side so the resulting chip will be 1.4x1.4cm=196m^2.

The shrink alone will bring a chip half the size with power draw to follow suit. So in essence Nvidia is promising 50% better perf per watt? Oh rly?

tride(11:28 PM CEST - Sep,22 2010 )
psolord: lol dude, you make it sound sooo simple... Your math is awesome! lol

So, there is no point of buying new vga yet :)

psolord(12:03 AM CEST - Sep,23 2010 )
tride> psolord: lol dude, you make it sound sooo simple... Your math is awesome! lol

So, there is no point of buying new vga yet :)

I did some on the fly conversions from cm to mm there, but other than that, the calculations are correct.

There's indeed no point buying a new VGA now, because Radeon 6000 series launches in one month, so everything else will be compressed down price wise. Nvidia will still have nothing new to offer for another six months or more. Maybe even a dual GF104 card but that is debatable as well.

nb411(05:52 AM CEST - Sep,23 2010 )
Yo psolord, don't forget this bit too:

"Huang noted that such an improvement goes "far beyond" what process technology advances alone can achieve. Changes in the chip architecture, design, and software will contribute to that advance, as well."

Csimbi(11:01 AM CEST - Sep,23 2010 )
2011?
Isn't that late?
NVidia might be dead by then...

psolord(02:03 PM CEST - Sep,23 2010 )
Csimbi> 2011?
Isn't that late?
NVidia might be dead by then...

There is something far more worrying than that. Did you see the Fermi date? Was Fermi a 2009 product? How does that equate to Kepler? :roll:

Csimbi(05:34 PM CEST - Sep,23 2010 )
Well, yes, that's quite alarming.
I would not be surprised if a few decision makers were fired from the company soon...

Tom(10:46 PM CEST - Sep,24 2010 )
First off who really needs an ATI 6000? You really think everyone is going to run out to the store and buy one? Not likely. Is there any game out there that needs a 6000 series card from ATI? No...So what does it matter if Nvidia doesn't have anything out at the same time?

Also...

Fermi, was late 2009 released 2010..
Kepler late 2010, releasing 2011...

notice the trend? late? no..

Kepler and Maxwell will kick the crap out of what AMD/ATI has. More processing power per watt which will also allow their cards to run at a much lower temperatures. Also given the die is further decreased in size. The cards will run faster and quieter and cooler.

All really doesn't matter anyhow. Like I said, there is nothing out that requires anything more than a GTX260 or GTX460... after that it's simply bragging rights.

Last I knew, Nvidia is still the reigning champion in terms of speed. Also, Nvidia still occupies the most market share.

So a statement like "NVidia might be dead by then.." is pretty idiotic.

Csimbi(11:29 PM CEST - Sep,24 2010 )
Well Tom, if Nvidia does not sell video cards, it will not have money to finance research (and, maybe the company). We should not forget that their primary income is from the video cards.
Their market share might be still large, but I suspect it will continue shrinking.

I hope I am wrong, but everything I read so far tells me that there's trouble coming for Nvidia.

BTW: ATI does not look any better.

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