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No TrackMania 2 Demo Plans - briefly
(hx) 11:03 AM CET - Nov,02 2011 - Post a comment / read (1)
Another forum post by Nadeo CEO Florent 'Hylis' Castelnerac follows up on his earlier comment that they don't have a playable demo for TrackMania 2: Canyon by outlining the reasons for not offering a sample of the racing sequel (thanks BluesNews):
You have two categories of games: the one that are great for launch and which the price decrease fast, and the one that stay in time but that sell less at start. I think it is linked to the degree of importance of the multiplayer part in the game. For exemple: on the charts of Valve, Counter-Strike source (2004) is ahead Portal 2 (2011) at the moment. Counter-Strike (2000) is a lot before Portal 1 (2007) which cost even less.

There is no demo for these games as well in fact. Because a long term seller is based on the fact that the interest of the game is also on long term. It is true that many people can enjoy TM in the first hour, but the average time of play of games like United is ten times more than short term games. So, we rely on word of mouth a lot at the moment. Maybe we will have a way to get more people in by making more people test, but I have other scheme than a demo. We did many demo in the past, and maybe things have changed a little in that perspective. But your question was about long term. To put simply, I think we would make more sells short term with a demo, but that there are more ways to bring people in by not having a demo that makes you have a wrong idea of the full potential of the game. Also, if our systems are still being improved month after month, maybe a demo would be better later.

About demo, there is already something about the evolution of the way of making games. The more I see studios to create "free-to-play" games, where you have most of the content for free, but some items to be paid, I feel that their job is likely to change from game makers to item sellers a little. I feel that if our job is to make games, then it is good to sell what we do. If you give two hours of fun with a demo, it is less normal to sell the full game after at the same price somehow, since they arlready "used it" For TrackMania, it is even more difficult since you can spend 20 hours on a same track to try to improve your time (I did it and I like it ^_^) We even received poetry from players that did not wanted us to close the demo servers, years after the release, since their clan where enjoying it so much.

So, we want to sell the game at the same price as possible for everybody in time and space (there is already some little price distortion because of countries) for the real job we are doing is for me a real long term strategy. I feel it more fair.
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gx-x(04:47 PM CET - Nov,02 2011 )
ubisoft bought them off and now they are trying to enforce some crap policy. I played TM Nations for two years. One of my friends was in top 10 drivers in the world, won championships and stuff and eventually dumped the game when it became "less free" and lost 90% of players due to introducing payment system that gave some awards and stuff, and mainly, disabling you from creating your own server, which is a big deal for most drivers.
Now, TM2 under ubisoft - it's done superbly, engine wise and graphics wise. Only problem is - it's not free and ubisoft expects most players from TM nations and TM united (which was part free for some stages) to just buy the game. IMO, not gonna work. There is a pirated copy out there and it offers exactly what good or pro drivers want: creating their own servers and connecting via virtual lan to drive.
On top of that, from what my friend told me, most of the good and pro drivers gave up on the game just as he did, when competition became non-existant due to players leaving the game, and nadeo servers just being populated by "noobs" that are no challenge to drive against.

so, in my opinion, without even a demo, this TM2 has as much chance for success as TM sunrise did. Yea, not much, that's why Nadeo made TM nations free in the first place. They had a good idea, sell the banners on the track like in real life racing and cover their expenses that way.

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