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Microsoft: If you have no internet, get an Xbox 360 - console
(hx) 12:41 PM CEST - Jun,12 2013 - Post a comment / read (22)
Microsoft's head of Xbox, Don Mattrick, has come out an suggested that the Xbox 360, Microsoft's seven-year-old game console, is a suitable replacement for the Xbox One when you don't have an internet connection. Specifically, to Spike TV he said: "...fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity, it's called Xbox 360 [...] if you have zero access to the internet, that is an offline device".



This was the exact arrogance displayed when Windows 8 was released and they are doing it again. Wow! :-)
last 10 comments:
Sabot(02:25 PM CEST - Jun,12 2013 )
You're fucked on a nuclear sub with the Eggbox 360, where do you find the room to swing your arms with kinect? :lol:

Btw, I like M$ forward thinking...... :roll:

spectra9(02:46 PM CEST - Jun,12 2013 )
I have the 360. I have relatively stable and fast internet. I won't be getting the Eggbox1. Ask me why M$ :p

Kompressor(04:21 PM CEST - Jun,12 2013 )
If you don't have Internet, then you have bigger problems.

BTW, Eggbox 360? What is this, kindergarten?

lorcro2000(04:44 PM CEST - Jun,12 2013 )
The PS4 has used games, has no issues with lending games and requires no Internet connection to play single-player games. It's also $399 vs $499.

Microsoft couldn't have shot themselves in the foot harder if they had tried, because the only people who'll pay $499 are hardcore gamers, not home-TV-box-buyers - and the hardcore gamers all hate the One with a burning passion already thanks to Microsoft's arrogance and consumer hostile policies.

Tom(05:36 PM CEST - Jun,12 2013 )
You go and buy yourself a PS4 fella. Enjoy it until Sony starts changing the rules on how you use it. They did it before, they'll do it again. Once a sucker always a sucker. That's a Sony customer.

Microsoft lays the law out in front of you, Sony changes it after you buy it. If you want to argue that then you are clueless.

Comparing Windows 8 to Xbox? Wow.. talk about grasping at straws.

tiamat(06:06 PM CEST - Jun,12 2013 )
Tom> You go and buy yourself a PS4 fella. Enjoy it until Sony starts changing the rules on how you use it. They did it before, they'll do it again. Once a sucker always a sucker. That's a Sony customer.

Microsoft lays the law out in front of you, Sony changes it after you buy it. If you want to argue that then you are clueless.


I couldn't agree more. Sony are playing a marketing game. "Don't like MS rules on the Xbone? Buy our console, you can trade games and don't need an internet connection!"

They have already said they would leave things like not being able to resell games and internet requirements to the publishers. That way when games need to phone home every few hours and your games all come with an activation code that is bound to your console so you can't sell it without buying a new code at nearly full price they can blame the publishers. It will start getting phased in a few months after launch when everybody has been suckered into buying it and can't do anything about it. Just like they did with "Other OS".

Both companies want the second hand market dead as they believe every second hand purchase is a lost new sale at full price. Just like that exec who didn't see the fuss about always online they have so much money things have no actual value to them. They think you must be some kind of freak if you can't afford broadband and a few games every month.

Majnun(06:18 PM CEST - Jun,12 2013 )
I wouldn't even consider buying one for $399 anyway.

By the time it's price has dropped I'm sure it'll be clear what the PS4's real restrictions are and I can decide based on that rather than marketing BS.

So far I've seen maybe 3 games on either system that won't be immediately coming to the PC as well. Just not that impressed with either one really. If anything I'll just get a PS3 when they drop to $100 and finally get to play those games.

Looks like this generation of consoles is all about saving me a buncha money!

Sabot(06:30 PM CEST - Jun,12 2013 )
Tom>
Microsoft lays the law out in front of you, Sony changes it after you buy it. If you want to argue that then you are clueless.

Comparing Windows 8 to Xbox? Wow.. talk about grasping at straws.


I think you'll find you've got your wires crossed.. It's M$ that has been continually moving the goalposts in this whole debacle. No you don't need Internet to play games.. Then it's; you must connect once in 24hrs. Yes you can trade secondhand games, then it's; to a friend, ONCE. Or one of our participating -signed up fake, we are nothing to do with M$- retailers.
Sure they've told it as it is, and you'd be an absolute idiot to buy one under those stipulations.
Besides most of the garbage they have spouted about tv etc are bloody well only applicable to specific regions, certainly not outside the US, as usual with M$. Sure cant wait to spend nearly $100 of the consoles cost on a stupid gimmick kinect, that you have no option to NOT own with the bloody console! Not. Lets sell it on eBay?.....erm, everyone's got one to sell.... Dont give a shit about ps eye, these are aimed at a younger market- like kinect (except M$, who thinks everyone should look like a recluse and a sad case, waving their arms about talking to their tv, so you're buying it in the price regardless) Win8 whatever, it has a win based OS in it that somewhere down the line will -scrapping the barrel- be on smart glass etc. anything to make rubbish sound soooo appetising. Once bought, suckered by M$. There's lots more to come from M$, no doubt, just sign the check and leave it blank.

You've still got to add a years Live! To that as well, or pay more quarterly... It sure gets better, unless of course the parents are buying. Then it's them who get screwed

As the saying goes; if you can't baffle them with science, dazzle them with bullshit!

Csimbi(04:27 AM CEST - Jun,13 2013 )
I'm with Stumpus on this one.

Baconnaise(08:45 AM CEST - Jun,13 2013 )
Tom Sony and MS are both multi billion dollar companies and go back on their word. MS was disingenuous prior to E3 and even at E3 and wouldn't give you straight answers. I don't know how you've come to the conclusion that they're straight shooters. Top this all off Xbox Live which you have to pay for to use services like your own internet not to mention other paid subscriptions like netflix and the like. How is that not double dipping and being shady? You have to be mentally challenged to pay extra to use what you already have which is what 360 owners apparently are.

Sony isn't any better either. They routinely try to shove proprietary shit down our throats so all roads lead to them. Sony had rootkit and otherOS and even PSN hacking issues with the PS3. Let's not forget they went into left field and made the PS3 which was six hundred bucks at release.

They both suck and have a bad history but right now Sony is the lesser of two evils at this point.

-=WolverinE=-(09:36 AM CEST - Jun,13 2013 )
I'll just leave these two over here...:

http://abload.de/img/xbonereqqdj.png
http://i.imgur.com/eX7F7kS.jpg

heretic(10:51 AM CEST - Jun,13 2013 )





Sabot(03:17 PM CEST - Jun,13 2013 )
lol, M$ new EUA. :book: :booty:

Sabot(03:21 PM CEST - Jun,13 2013 )
-=WolverinE=-> I'll just leave these two over here...:

http://abload.de/img/xbonereqqdj.png
http://i.imgur.com/eX7F7kS.jpg


priceless, the arrogance of M$. Do any of them know what they are doing internaly? Sounds like they have employed EA rejects.....

Tom(06:59 PM CEST - Jun,13 2013 )
What's priceless is how you got your dick stuck in your PS3 Stumpus. If you think Sony wont turn around and do the same thing MS is doing, you really are a space cadet. It's called marketing for idiots, like you. 'Oh, MS is saying this and that? Ok, lets put our plans on hold and look like the good guys and say we aren't doing that'. I got my wires crossed? Hahaha! You haven't got a fucking clue what you are talking about like fucking ever! Is it a surprise you are dishing on MS? Ha No...You are always dishing on MS. It's like a fucking broken record. Then you are a fucking hypocrite telling me to stop dishing on Sony or telling others. FFS, Hypocrite! I own a PS3, I know what getting fucked over by Sony is and I make it a point to tell anyone to save them the hassle. Not to mention all my credit card and shit was taken because of Sony's shit non-secure network. How many times was the MS network hacked? Huh, how funny I don't remember ever seeing that in a headline. FFS they were sending your uid/pwd in clear text. How fucking stupid is that!!?! How about getting hacked again and again when you told you customers that your network is now secure. Total shit. How about taking your whole network offline for weeks to fix security holes and fuck everyone over that has only online games. Total Shit. That's Sony. SHIT. Seems some more of you need to experience that first hand. And I don't lend my games, fuck that shit, I did trade them in at one time but when I got $10 for a still on the shelves $50+ game I decided to just keep them. 4 older games for a new one is fucking stupid, you're just filling that stores money coffers. They simply turn around and take $10 off retail for a used game and put it on a shelf.

I'm done on this topic, if you can't figure it out then god help you. Enjoy your shitbox Sony.

Sabot(08:13 PM CEST - Jun,13 2013 )
Did anyone hear anything?

Tom(10:06 PM CEST - Jun,13 2013 )
Douche, bet ya hear that when you're walking around eh?!



Csimbi> I'm with Stumpus on this one.

Like anyone gives a fuck if your with Stumpus. FFS. Must be dealing with a bunch of dumb ass kids or something. :roll:

Sabot(12:37 PM CEST - Jun,14 2013 )
quote:
I'm done on this topic, if you can't figure it out then god help you. Enjoy your shitbox Sony.


You just can't stop hearing yourself eh?
Tom grow the fuck up, you've made your stance. You support M$, and they've fucked up now you can't back out- amiably.... It just isn't you.
Sony may or may not attract more punters, but I don't care. It doesn't affect my life (unlike your ego) M$ have made you look a fool, and now your chomping at the bit. :lol:
M$ have become a cash-cow, nothing new there. Sony, if they have any brains, will capitalise on a major BALLSUP by a company so far up its arse, it believes it can't be harmed, dangerous game....
So Tom, as your the minority that can't express yourself -without ' i must always be right and win arguments' , childish demeanour. :roll:

You know how pathetic you are is when you go on about, 'not owning anything Sony' in your house. No one is listening, who cares??. trouble is there are MILLIONS and MILLIONS who do own tons of everything From Sony, and Yamaha, panasonic.... cause they can and will; TVs, music players, high end music equipment that don't discriminate like M$ DO!!
A tv is a fucking TV, a music player has a good sound or it doesn't and a Hi-Fi has a rich sound. Or a games machine plays games. What they get SERIOUSLY pissed off with is CONTROL! M$ controls its OS, its consoles, doesn't make fuck all other than sourcing it out, has no connection with its customers other than 'fuck off if your not happy'. Want an Eggbox One? Well your getting it with kinect whether you don't want it or not... TOUGH! Second hand gaming is ripping your tits off, two owners then in the bin.....you soo stupid? Clearly
My tv doesn't go, 'oh you can't plug in anything NOT Sony' nor does my music player say ' all your content is DRM' like Apple.
M$ make NOTHING but money by ripping stupid sods off like you!
That we all LAUGH at...
Now you can go and kick the dog.


Oh, and since you are sooo THICK, that fuck all penetrates your dense skull! it happens that Hx posted here also along with a few others that clearly don't like M$ stance on this subject. So how about growing some balls and telling Hx how you feel about him, also?
Me, I couldn't care less, I'm laughing my arse off typing this half asleep and still beating your two brain cells senseless.
So over to your next brain cell......what did the other say?
quote:
I'm done on this topic, if you can't figure it out then god help you. Enjoy your shitbox Sony.

Baconnaise(12:55 PM CEST - Jun,14 2013 )
Love this thread.

Sabot(12:58 PM CEST - Jun,14 2013 )
quote:
Douche, bet ya hear that when you're walking around eh?!


Amazing deduction, Tom. Actually, I do. Why wouldn't I?
Why, do you not? Only when your sitting down and not too much external stimulation going on- like thinking, throws your hearing off a bit? Strange...

Csimbi(01:14 PM CEST - Jun,14 2013 )
Let's just agree to disagree. Nobody can predict the future - not even those trying to shape it for us.
So. Why don't we post our list of games played on XB1 and PS4 respectively, along with the total costs of playing those games of course, let's say, a year from now on?

Sabot(01:42 PM CEST - Jun,14 2013 )
I just say, the facts have been put up, for all to see. So far it ain't rocket science to differentiate the difference between the cost and limitations between the consoles.
You either buy or you do not, pretty simple eh?
Like every PC game from before consoles, you didn't like the company or game. Keep your wallet in your pocket. Hurt them financially. Even if you don't, it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling knowing YOU made the decision and didn't require to find more on the Internet to justify why you didn't buy it or did.
I buy, I play and its my choice. It's hard to justify owning a product that is going to rip you off, financially for the life of owning it. It's easier to buy something with less stipulations on it and accept its not for you than to buy into a 'contract' that is full of false returns....

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