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Kotaku: The Many, Many Deaths Of PC Gaming - briefly
(hx) 09:54 PM CEST - Oct,27 2010 - Post a comment / read (22)
Is PC Gaming Dying? ;-)

last 10 comments:
Koogle(11:35 PM CEST - Oct,27 2010 )
Of course it's dying!, PC gaming has an endless half life :P

..it will never completely die out. As long as people still use the desktop computer platform setup while it remains the most powerful/customizable tool for productive/creative/development etc .. oh and gaming :D things ain't going to change much.

I think some technology convergence is inevitable.

Personally I think console gaming is more likely to see a decline in the future, as industries try to push controlled mobile gaming markets. Which potentially pose more of threat to both markets (desktop pc & console) specially as the technology battery/performance/display/weight/interaction models etc improves for it.

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ZamatoElite
PC Gaming = Shallow gaming.

What's better than laying back on the couch, with a controller grasped in between your hands? With the big HDTV blaring sound and light throughout your living room?

Who wants to sit hunched over their keyboard, foaming at the mouth while arguing over who's $150 gaming keyboard is better? And when the gaming finally begins, assuming it ever does, you feel disconnected, distracted, insecure, always longing to close out the game and do something else.

:lol: ... console muppets like that are so funny, they truly are in reality of such blissful ignorance and naive stupidity. Actual Facts must really annoy them.

Tom(11:48 PM CEST - Oct,27 2010 )
What a lousy vid. Everyone knows PC gaming is on life support. Million bucks says that vid was made by a chick who's all mad because her and the 15 others playing the same PC games she is are getting bored. LOL!

I'm going to dust off my PC soon for Hexen, that's about all I care about playing on PC and then it's back to my cheat free console games! Woo! Oh yes, and now while I play on console I'll do it lying on my NEW nice leather couch with hidden beer and remote control storage!! Woooo!

Bert(12:07 AM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
Theres too many variables between consoles, PCs, and mobiles and the games they play that it can be comparing apples to oranges in alot of ways. Some games I prefer on console, others the PC. Personally, I use the PC more.

Koogle(12:37 AM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
wow Tom, color me jealous :roll: *leans back in comfy chair, 'yup, yup ..yup' :D *

"What a lousy vid. Everyone knows PC gaming is on life support"

No I don't think everyone does know that ...See console systems are on consumer/corporate funded life support from the moment they hit the drawing boards and then market, to very last game that is published for it.

It's a locked platform market place for casual couch gamers, those who put a potential level playing field over superior gaming enjoyment/control/customization etc etc etc ...oh and lastly those in a position to exploit every last penny out of it. I'd never support such stinking exploitative and shallow gaming nonsense. It has a few good points, but its got a mountain of shortfalls I'm just not interested in ever supporting.

Really the only thing I miss about a console system are certain exclusive titles and beat'em up games, but I don't miss them enough to want a dust collector I'll hardly ever use otherwise.

"I'm going to dust off my PC soon for Hexen"

Well lets hope the PC gaming life support plug hasn't been pulled out by then, mod development might just then be forced out of fashion :P I don't know any companies that would want that and other things to happen, I guess they'll just have to go on preaching about the death of PC gaming..

tride(01:01 AM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
Lol, nice vid! :) I was laughing about the same thing..... over a decade now and the dumb ass idiots are trying to make everyone believe the PC is dieing :lol: Sooo pathetic "propaganda" to make more morrons buy the stupid consoles!
Sorry, im not one of those guys!
:) Never enjoyed the console games! I had PS2... great games there, but only the idea - the gameplay sux!!! Nothing bether than mouse and keyboard!

So, PC is going rock and rolling than ever! After all if it wasnt the PC as gaming platform there wasnt going to be any development in the technology!

8) PC rocks!

Tom(01:36 AM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
Ya dumb people with lots of money. More money than you'll ever see in your lifetime.

Ya keyb and mouse is definitely easier to play FPS, but then not everyone plays just one genre of game. It's amazing the intellectual depth of people that can only chalk up a keyb/mouse as why console sucks. Consoles do support keyb and mouse actually, just not for gaming. If it did support it for gaming, PC would really be dead. Be happy now, but I think in the near future this will be one less excuse you will be able to use.

Baconnaise(02:13 AM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
Tom> Ya dumb people with lots of money. More money than you'll ever see in your lifetime.

Ya keyb and mouse is definitely easier to play FPS, but then not everyone plays just one genre of game. It's amazing the intellectual depth of people that can only chalk up a keyb/mouse as why console sucks. Consoles do support keyb and mouse actually, just not for gaming. If it did support it for gaming, PC would really be dead. Be happy now, but I think in the near future this will be one less excuse you will be able to use.

Let's not forget RTS and MMORPG's mate ;). I think that covers the bulk of the market though.

Tom(02:43 AM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
Baconnaise> Tom> Ya dumb people with lots of money. More money than you'll ever see in your lifetime.

Ya keyb and mouse is definitely easier to play FPS, but then not everyone plays just one genre of game. It's amazing the intellectual depth of people that can only chalk up a keyb/mouse as why console sucks. Consoles do support keyb and mouse actually, just not for gaming. If it did support it for gaming, PC would really be dead. Be happy now, but I think in the near future this will be one less excuse you will be able to use.

Let's not forget RTS and MMORPG's mate ;). I think that covers the bulk of the market though.

True but I play RTS on PS3 with a gamepad and you know what, it's pretty damn good. MMORPG couldn't really care less but that's just me. I am pretty confident in the next gen console and keyb and mouse or a close equivalent. There is capability to play UT3 with keyb and mouse on PS3 as it is. I think it's popularity and the fact lots complain about the lack of either will drive them to bring it sooner than anyone thinks. When I had OtherOS I was using keyb and mouse on my ps3 to game. Part of why I was so pissed they removed that feature.

Majnun(07:19 AM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
Whatever you morons rant about if THIS is not the last life cycle of the console the next one will be.

It will be merged into one system that is the SAME system you use to get on the internet.

If you think there will be 2 more XBOXes and 2 more PSs's you are a moron. I doubt there will even be ONE more of each.

Resume fighting like little bitches now.

Tom(03:44 PM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
Ya, there wont be anymore console generations :roll: :P Who are you the next Bill Gates?

tride(03:58 PM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
Lol TOm, can you name a genre that is not easier to play with Key and Mouse ?
hahahaha, wtf are you talking about ? :lol: You play with a stupid pad stupid games! This is the thing called "dumbed down gameplay"!!!
Auto select enemy then press that button..... you got it!
Loool :lol: And you think playing this way is somehow sophisticated and advanced ? You gotta be a complete moron, really!

And Majnun is right. The real thing is that consoles are dieing!
Look at the facts! They are making progress toward internet play - where the PC rules it all!
What is the difference between consoles and PC ? Can you think a little here ?
Let me tell you! NONE!!! In reality there is no fukin reason for consoles to exsist but ONLY the morons that buy them!!!
No reason! Thats right!
Those games that are getting made exclusively for the consoles can be made for PC - no problem, its just a fakin marketing thing.

All the game genres/types on the consoles can be played on the PC - plus, on the PC you can have more advanced and bether performance and graphics! More gameplay options and whatever you want.... WHy ?
Because PC is universal platform! Plug a god damn joystick, stick it in your ass and get all the pleasure you want console fanboy.
Wanna play games on your HDTV ??? Cant think of a problem there.... Better graphics yet!

So, the problem with consoles is that they cant catch up with the progress of hardware and software development...
If Sony or Microsuck could find a way to sell parts for them consoles, they will fukin rape your ass for doing so!
If they could find a way to get you buying a new console every year, they will rape your ass - no doubt about this!
Just there is one big problem for those money suckers! They make expensive piece of crap!!! How much was the PS3 when it came out ? 600-700 bucks ? So if they try to sell you a new, bether PS3 every year, what ? Are you gonna buy it or you gonna invest the money in new VGA for example ? :lol:
Think about that for a moment, if you can - i dare ya! 8)

Tom(08:06 PM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
Ok tried, or Koogle or whoever you are. On this site who knows.

tride> Lol TOm, can you name a genre that is not easier to play with Key and Mouse ?
hahahaha, wtf are you talking about ? :lol: You play with a stupid pad stupid games! This is the thing called "dumbed down gameplay"!!!
Auto select enemy then press that button..... you got it!
Loool :lol: And you think playing this way is somehow sophisticated and advanced ? You gotta be a complete moron, really!

Who cares? I don't need a keyb/mouse to play games. That's just it. You do. Sad to be you. My abilities are not hampered because I can't play with a keyb/mouse. I never sad gamepad was better idiot. The only moron is you.

tride>
And Majnun is right. The real thing is that consoles are dieing!
Look at the facts! They are making progress toward internet play - where the PC rules it all!
What is the difference between consoles and PC ? Can you think a little here ?
Let me tell you! NONE!!! In reality there is no fukin reason for consoles to exsist but ONLY the morons that buy them!!!
No reason! Thats right!
Those games that are getting made exclusively for the consoles can be made for PC - no problem, its just a fakin marketing thing.


You must be Koogle, because only someone with the brain the size of Koogle could say such moronic things. If you want to sit here and state console is dying, you are a complete moron. What's the difference between console and pc, console rakes in 100x more profit than PC. Console is not ripped to the extent of PC. Console is one consistent platform not like PC where companies have to spend tonnes on testing and support. Those are the difference that matters moron. Wake the fuck up.


tride>
All the game genres/types on the consoles can be played on the PC - plus, on the PC you can have more advanced and bether performance and graphics! More gameplay options and whatever you want.... WHy ?
Because PC is universal platform! Plug a god damn joystick, stick it in your ass and get all the pleasure you want console fanboy.
Wanna play games on your HDTV ??? Cant think of a problem there.... Better graphics yet!

So, the problem with consoles is that they cant catch up with the progress of hardware and software development...
If Sony or Microsuck could find a way to sell parts for them consoles, they will fukin rape your ass for doing so!
If they could find a way to get you buying a new console every year, they will rape your ass - no doubt about this!
Just there is one big problem for those money suckers! They make expensive piece of crap!!! How much was the PS3 when it came out ? 600-700 bucks ? So if they try to sell you a new, bether PS3 every year, what ? Are you gonna buy it or you gonna invest the money in new VGA for example ? :lol:
Think about that for a moment, if you can - i dare ya! 8)

I'm not bothering to respond. You are a complete and utter moron man. I got better things to do than waste my time with someone who barely has the brain capacity of a gerbil. Like wow, you are pushing the statistics for the biggest moron on this site.

Tom(08:20 PM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
No further consoles? You tow are quite simply absolute morons. If you truly believe there will be no more consoles. You have to be morons, there's no doubt in my mind. Companies have barely even begun to exploit the potentials of console. Console has been nothing but complete and utter success as opposed to PC. New consoles are bound to show up in late 2012 or 2013. There is article after article all over the place. Do you even know how to use Google? FFS what idiots. LOL!

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6234558.html

If you are going to respond in this thread, please have a fucking clue before you do. I wont be replying to further retarded comments like from tride or Majnum...

tride = I'm trying, I really am!

Majnum = Major numb nuts.

gx-x(09:10 PM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
I dont get it Tom, consoles are better because they rack in more profit? wtf man, are you playing games to support companies or to satisfy your entertainment needs? Why should a customer care how much money some companies make? How is it relevant to a "what is better" discussion?

in the end, how will it benefit you, the consumer, if PC gaming were to die? You will get a console update once in 10 years, since exploiting the production line will be only limited to competition updates. If new technology and better graphics that PC offers die off, console makers will have zero reason to make new console or any leap forward. They will just milk the cow until some sort of competition shows up. And that will be highly unlikely to happen since a new fish would have to go against sharks like m$ and $ony.

Good RTS on consoles? Jeez dude...get a grip. It's as good as vegan cheese opposed to real cheese, dildo to a dic*, goat pussy and real pussy. I congratulate you if you can tolerate all that, because I will envy you at the point when/if everyone starts thinking as you do since we will then have just that, replacements and dumbed down world around us, just lay on a couch, press LT for sex with virtual chick, RT for beer...Watched Wall-E lately? Your pro console stuff reminds me of just that - a fat man lying in the flying chair unable and unwilling to move or do anything. Plug and play...yeeeeaaaa /sarcasm (I am not implying that you are fat or lazy, I am just telling you how your comments sound sometimes, besides sounding like you work for Sony...)

RayzorBlue(09:23 PM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
Haha I love these console/PC handbag bitch fights you guys have. I have been playing consoles and PC's all my life from spectrum,C64 and NES to Win7 PC, 360 and Wii even have Nintendo game and watch and there are big differences between the systems people say the gap is closing but really it isn't. I cannot imagine Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft releasing a gaming system that acts as a PC, its just not what people want yes you can surf the net on them but you can do that on your mobile. What I like about PC games is they are cheaper than there console counterparts, contrary to some peoples beliefs they are not full of cheats (if they where I would never top the table in any round) and yes they look better as well as having keyb and mouse. Of course I could never play a game like FIFA on my PC because it just doesn't feel right and my mates that own FIFA own consoles same goes for the likes of Streetfighter. I do have driving games on the PC but use the 360 controller on them so my advice is embrace both worlds if you can afford it and if not get a console because a decent gaming PC is going to cost you £500-600 (for the rig) but you can get an XBox for £130.

gx-x(09:39 PM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
RayzorBlue> Haha I love these console/PC handbag bitch fights you guys have. I have been playing consoles and PC's all my life from spectrum,C64 and NES to Win7 PC, 360 and Wii even have Nintendo game and watch and there are big differences between the systems people say the gap is closing but really it isn't. I cannot imagine Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft releasing a gaming system that acts as a PC, its just not what people want yes you can surf the net on them but you can do that on your mobile. What I like about PC games is they are cheaper than there console counterparts, contrary to some peoples beliefs they are not full of cheats (if they where I would never top the table in any round) and yes they look better as well as having keyb and mouse. Of course I could never play a game like FIFA on my PC because it just doesn't feel right and my mates that own FIFA own consoles same goes for the likes of Streetfighter. I do have driving games on the PC but use the 360 controller on them so my advice is embrace both worlds if you can afford it and if not get a console because a decent gaming PC is going to cost you £500-600 (for the rig) but you can get an XBox for £130.

i do agree with you and all you said is imo true. But xbox wasn't always 150 pounds, and you can get a gaming system from "back then" when xbox was released for 150 pounds also so... :) It is just the way the system works, you pay a part of a console with every game you buy. Giving 150 pounds for xbox just to play one game is stupid, same goes for PC. On PC you get cheaper games but you pay more for hardware (if you choose to have better graphics or what not all the time), for consoles, you pay them once, there are no improvements, they are cheaper but you will pay more for games, indefinitely...
it is always best to have em all ofc if you can afford it. To me it's a moot point that PC costs more compared to consoles since they both offer different options. That FIFA 2013 is not going to look any better on xbox than FIFA 2010 does...it is going to look better on PC if you put 200 pounds in graphics card in 2013 when it comes out...It's a choice, one that consoles do not offer but instead they offer something else.
Different worlds.

HeavyStorm(10:20 PM CEST - Oct,28 2010 )
TL;DR

However, people should be singing a different song: Why are Consoles looking a lot more like PC as times goes by? Yeah, the platforms are different now, but in 10 years, will you be able to tell the difference?

Consoles already have internet access, keyboards and mice, support multiplayer over the net... PS3 *had* Linux, all platforms are accepting homebrew (to a certain extent), casual gaming, DLC, etc.

And the cost of consoles are getting higher as PCs are getting cheaper. So, I don't think PC is dying. I think Console is becoming a lot more like PC, until one day there will not be a real difference between playing PC and Console.

For now, PC might not be terribly good at games (even though it's my platform of choice), but it isn't only a gaming platform. Few or maybe no one has a console and not a PC. The inverse is true: many people (myself included) have PCs but doesn't have consoles.

Oh, and, Tom, shut up.

Baconnaise(01:16 AM CEST - Oct,29 2010 )
The biggest difference and a major one in RTS for example on PC is the mod and community. Sins of a Solar Empire is a great example of this. You can use countless mods to get more enjoyment out of an already decent game. I've spent maybe two years playing skirmish alone in SP with Star Trek, Star Wars, and many other mods for this game. It's not the only one either.

You won't find this on console RTS or any console game for that matter. I mean look at DOTA for Warcraft an old RTS. It's spawned completely new games out of a mod!

gx-x(02:08 AM CEST - Oct,29 2010 )
Well, I am fairly sure that Tom can play Sins of a solar Empire on PS3 with gamepad and call it good. Of course, AI would be set to idle or "retarded" with "very very very easy" being the toughest setting. You would be able to build only in one system and only two buildings, hangar and mine. You don't need starport or capital ship factory since you control only one capital ship with possibility to be upgraded with smaller ships that act on their own. If this ship is destroyed - game is over. Auto aim is also welcome as in most of console games played with gamepad. :)

now isn't that just pure fun! :vomit:

Tom(09:07 PM CEST - Oct,30 2010 )
PS3 sells like shit? Who said that? Anyhow, time to educate yourself with reality. Seriously, does anyone on this site know what they are talking about?

http://www.1up.com/news/playstation-3-closing-gap-on-xbox

Modding a game means shit if next to nobody plays it. While Sins was a great game on the PC I got bored of it ages ago. Also if a game like UT3 can import PC mods than anything can be modded if the devs give that capability. I have no time or interest in mods.

Apathy Curve(06:08 PM CET - Oct,31 2010 )
Steam.

I win. Night-night, Tom.

psolord(09:45 PM CET - Oct,31 2010 )
Tom> What a lousy vid. Everyone knows PC gaming is on life support. Million bucks says that vid was made by a chick who's all mad because her and the 15 others playing the same PC games she is are getting bored. LOL!

I'm going to dust off my PC soon for Hexen, that's about all I care about playing on PC and then it's back to my cheat free console games! Woo! Oh yes, and now while I play on console I'll do it lying on my NEW nice leather couch with hidden beer and remote control storage!! Woooo!

Hey TOM, I see you crapped all over this thread....again. Doesn't matter.

It's nice to see you got a new leather chair with beer compartment. You will need a lot of this beer to really enjoy these games. The problem is that you need a lot of alcohol in your blood, to counter the lack of decent framerates, full screen anti aliasing, 1:1 pixel mapping, decent geometry and full color/full res textures. Want some weed with that? :lol:

Watch that liver man...!

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