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Korea: Forgotten Conflict Interview - interview
(hx) 05:41 PM CEST - Jun,24 2003 - Post a comment / read (19)
Gamer.nl has posted an interview with an unknown member of Plastic Reality, as he talks about Korea: Forgotten Conflict, the upcoming Korean War themed real-time strategy game for publisher Cenega. According to interview, The game should be finished in Q4/2003. Here is a slice:
Q:Will the main focus in Korea be on stealth or action, or is the player free in the way he approaches the game? And why did you choose to make the game this way?

A:The major impact will be on stealth action. But within some locations the player must be quick and action is recommended, but only to a limited degree. The game is about commandos of the Special Forces operating behind enemy lines. Therefore in order to stay alive, as long as possible, it is important to be very quiet because the surroundings are full of enemy soldiers. The chosen game play is already described above. The game is designed this way because the detailed 3D surroundings enable to develop various and unique levels full of places to precede a secret operation.
last 10 comments:
Lard Assposted - Jun, 24 2003 - 22:19
its funny aint it, during the 80's we saw many pro american movies such as HAMBURGER HILL, MISSING IN ACTION, PLATOON and many more that didnt show the other side i.e KOREAN/VIETNAMIE sides. Now we have the same again but in VIDEO GAMES shovelling the same TRIPE and giving kiddies one sided views of how americans see the enemy and not how having the right to defend their home/family/country from an invader ! Funny how RAMBO III showed the taliban to be PRO AMERICAN and how the MUJAHADEEN we trying to rid themselves of the invaders in AFGHANISTAN ie the RUSSIAN and how rambo respected the freedom fighters, now they r called the TALIBAN and the worlds enemy, all i got 2 say is ONLY IN AMERICA ! sorry 2 get political on ur ASS but i thought it needed to be pointed out 2 ppl that PC GAMES r getting more & more POLITICAL just look at the wave of MIDDLE EAST games coming out !

Qposted - Jun, 24 2003 - 22:45
the whole terrorism issue has been around for the last 50 years. The general public just has not gived a shit about it until recently due to 911. The fact that the pentagon ACTUALLY GOT HIT. Just tells you how seriously the GOVERNMENT TOKE SECURITY at the pentagon. HOPEFULLY THEY LEARNED THERE LEASON. And they won't behave in a stupid fashion anymore. YOU can't win a war by ignoring the enemy thats idiotic. We have had and STILL HAVE WEAK leaders in come countries. PEACE IS NOT A SIMPLE AS NOT FIGHTING. its about long term security and making sure that quality of life and the surviability of a species improves over time.

net zeroposted - Jun, 24 2003 - 22:52
KOREA EH? well all i can say is WORLD WAR 3 is coming. OR at least a 2ND NORTH KOREAN WAR. There is NO WAY IN HELL North korea will NOT give up its nukes. The north korean leader its not that strong. AND I WOULD RATHER FIGHT NORTH KOREA NOW TODAY THEN IN 10 YEARS WHEN THEY GOT MORE NUKES or before "NUCLEAR TERRORISM" begins. Sooner or later Nuclear terrorism WILL occur which is why we need to COLONIZE MORE PLANETS. BUT SPACE FUNDING IS SEVERELY CRAPPY IN TODAY"S WORLD SO WE ALL BASICALLY SCREWED. SOME BEEF UP THAT MILITARY AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE CAUSE ITS GOING TO GET REAL BLOODY. TEchnically they still at war(north/south). Which makes we wonder why they have some economicco-operation going on it makes no sense to help the enemy. anyway i think are leaders are failing us they are too short term thinkers.

Hjarryposted - Jun, 25 2003 - 01:08
Yep. Games are getting more and more political, and it's sad. I don't come to games looking for politics - heh, just the opposite, I want to forget about scummy politicians! Politics, and especially the politics of war, is the most corrupt subject known to mankind - a curse on our safety and our economies and our families. I used to have an old relative who actually fought in Korea who, for years afterward, woke up screaming in the night; see, his job was to use flame throwers to "clean out" enemy caves, then go inside for the body count. And when you do shit like that, you don't sleep easily ever again. So it's pretty fucked up that his experience and all the millions of lives who were ruined by the war becomes the subject for a game for people who can't find Korea on a map, or even tell you what the war was all about. This kind of brainwashing, my friends, with its ability to erase historical memory, is how your governments and their business friends get you ready for the next war, and the one after that, and so on...

Lard Assposted - Jun, 25 2003 - 10:22
Teddy Roosevelt is credited with saying, "Speak softly and carry a big stick,". Unfortunately GWBUSH is a blundering fool annoying and bullying many nations in the world and threating them with preemptive strikes (i.e if we feel you may be a threat in the future to our country we will NUKE U). If only some 1 could create a Politician game where the voters can publicly humilate politicians who deceive the public for their own political gain.

{posted - Jun, 25 2003 - 18:20
lol you dumb lard ass wake up and READ the news. IRAQ was violating its cease-fire agreement. i had illegal weapons and WMD. afganshitan was a terrorist heaven. and north korea has built 2 nuclear bombs IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE NUCLEAR NON-PRoliferation TREATY. After they did that THEY PULLED OUT OF TREATY. if you don't know what the NUCLEAR NON-proliferation TREATY IS THEN I SUGGEST YOU NEED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHATS GOING ON BEFORE MAKING STUPID COMMENTS. these countries where/are ANTI-HUMAN. north korean leaders don't even feed there people properly instead they use there money to make there army stronger. you can't wait for the enemy to get nukes. REMEMBER TECHNICALLY NORTH AND SOUTH KOREA ARE STILL AT WAR. it would SUICIDE TO LET THEM GET THE NUKES. Lots of people have no clue whats going on. your comment "annoying and bullying many nations in the world and threating them with preemptive strikes" is not 100% true. THEY ARE PUSHING COUNTRIES TO HOLD TO AGREEMENTS THEY have signed in the case of iraq. and KILLING PEOPLE WHO ARE ANTI-HUMAN in case of taliban in afganistan. its ANTI-HUMAN to commit terrorist acts.Life has improved greatly in afgansitan since there removal if you don't know that then like i said read some more. If you don't have correct information or any information they you will have stupid conclusions.

Lone Wolfposted - Jun, 25 2003 - 19:50
Hmm! after reading some you peoples comments I strongly believe that we America, are doing the right thing. Come on only America, has the power and weapons to get involve and deal with any nations problems in the world. You know during the Taliban, rules over Afganistan, the Taliban ban radio,tv,school etc what kind of world is that. We on the other hand see schools and educations as power into the future. So we Americans, must stand up for our country and our servicemen and women who die for us. Well anyway that my point of view, and nowadays we have games industries focus on political gaming such as the big communist country like China,Russia oh well I think it okay! it only a game so have fun peoples.

Lard Assposted - Jun, 25 2003 - 21:05
come know ppl, chill out and talk about this first of all {-} there R no WMD and still 2 this day none have been found, dont forget this was the BASIS 4 WAR ok so think about it ! Secondly the coalition (UK&USA) went against the SECURITY COUNCIL thus going against the UN thus going against the WORLD in the fight for OIL thats all its about, the first customers for IRAQI oil sold on the STOCK EXCHANGE R ChevronTexaco check BBC NEWS for PROOF DUMBASS i've provided u with FACTS so think B4 u SPEAK ! GWBUSH is just another BULLY in the school playground of the WORLD and using his BIG TOYS and FRIENDS to cripple anyone who defies him. He goes around the playground shouting "preemptive strike" ! WTF has the USA got 2 do with the KOREAN issue they went there to "PREVENT THE SO CALLED COMMUNISM IDEA SPREADING" WTF do u know where KOREA is FFS how the FOOK can that be a THREAT to the USA just think about it and its things like VIETNAM that what you got 2 ask ur self is the vietnamies have forgotton about the war, unfortunately the USA hasnt, WHY i hear u say BECAUSE the LOST and from then they have been waiting to show to the WORLD that they control the PLAYGROUND of the WORLD (look @ ur history books ppl and u will C the real bully)

{posted - Jun, 26 2003 - 03:35
OK LISTEN UP MR LARD ASS then you might learn something instead of making dumb conclusions. -------------------------------------- Failure to find WMD does not mean they don't exist.its a big country your not going to find WMD overnight. They might not even be in the country? they could have been moved out before the war? Even UN some member countries that disagreed with invading acknowleged that iraq had WMD. The WMD issue is NOT THE ONLY reason iraq was invaded. Iraq had illegal conventional weapons as well. Also the iraq people are suffering under a brutal dictator they starve so sadamm could live in LUxury do they deserve that HELL NO! it was the right thing to do for the iraq people. in 5-10 years they will have a better life not be living like dogs. Your second point is wrong the coalition DID NOT VIOLATE ANY UN resolution by ATTACKING IRAQ. they had the authority under previous resolutions to use DEADLY force to remove the threat. if you don't know that read the previous resolutions. The DISAGREEMENT was IF FORCE SHOULD BE used not IF FORCE WAS ALLOWED TO BE USED. ---------------------------------------- AS FOR the "OIL REASON" to invade iraq thats completely ridiculous to conclude that why? FIRST THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY monitors iraq's oil xports the coalition would not be able to "STEAL" oil without anyone finding out which would make them look bad. Second Its does not does make ecomonic sense to invade iraq for oil it COST BILLIONS of dollars a day to move and operate a army to invade iraq. If anything the coalition is going to LOSE money because they invaded iraq not make a profit. There going to be there for at least another 3-5 years. thats 3-5 years of expenses. why spend billions of dollars for 3-5 years to possibly steal oil. its cheaper to just buy it. New energy sources are being developed in 10-20 years the US may not even be using oil . thirdly anytime you engage your army you are weaking it overall cause your using up resources like fuel,food,supplies e.t.c. not to mention people getting killed. it does not make sense to do this unless you GOT A REALLY good reason oil does not cut it. Did you consider these points? my guess is you did not do enough thinking. The NORTH KOREAN ISSUE effects ALL UNITED NATIONS MEMBERS not just the US. its the UN that decided to DEFEND south korea the US just did most of the work in defending the south. the Danger with north korea is that they MAY distributed Nuclear weapons to terrorists or possibly use Nuclear weapons. Remember North and south korea are still at war technically. North korea has a history of selling arms to terrorists. DO YOU WANT YOUR Country nuked by a terrorist? and one more thing they are not 2 countries in the coalition (UK and US) they are something like 40. in case you don't know NORTH KOREA HAS A MISSLE THAT CAN HIT THE UNITES STATES. THAT MEANS NORTH KOREA CAN NUKE THE USA. currently the USA has NO EFFECTIVE defense agaisnt ICBM's. and i case you don't know a attack on any nato country is an attack on all nato countries. but the nato charter. what about japan? north korea shot a missle OVER japan a while back thats a hostile act. the security of the world is threatened by north korean development of WMD if you can't see that then you misinformation,uninformed or making stupid conclusion cause you don't have a lot of the facts. Peace is not a simple as not fighting. you have to have security too. you can't wait for the enemy to become so strong that he will cripple you that makes no sense you have to deal with threats when there are weak so they don't become insane to deal with.

billposted - Jun, 26 2003 - 03:57
who helped liberated/defended people in panama,kuwait,europe during (world war 1 and world war 2),south korea,kosovo? answer USA. learn your history lard ass thats all i can say.

Lard Assposted - Jun, 26 2003 - 09:08
WMD WAS the only REASON the COALITION attacked IRAQ because they SAW IRAQ as a THREAT and the UK SECURTIY SERVICES said he could LAUNCH chemical warheads within 45mins, so STFU and get ur NEWS from various outlets such as newspapers, google news, TV News, Satellite News & INTERNET CHAT & real People not FOX NEWS or CNN which are know as PROGRANDA channels, and finally STFU u dont seem to LISTEN 2 what i've been saying and your trying to make out im lying, i get my FACTS from the various news sources so again and finally get the WAX out of ur EARS and LISTEN up to what is going on about u cause it will effect u one way or another.

Lard Assposted - Jun, 26 2003 - 09:10
LOL bill who sliced up the world between its peoples and created borders (British & French) ur point is BILL !

{posted - Jun, 26 2003 - 15:59
Lard ass some of your facts may be right but your to linear thinking. your like a to b to c. but your missing facts f-k. so your making inaccurate conclusions cause you don't got enough data. I would agree that WMD was the PRIMARY reason for invasion but not the only reason. The issue was disarming iraq.WMD is part of that and so is conventional weapons. iraq had illegal missles which where beyond the range allowed. If you where reading the news you would know that they started destroying them a couple weeks before the war(note they had 10 YEARS to destroy the missles they had lots of time). As for iraq the iraq people are better off now then they where with saddam. They have the potential to be better and grow and prosper. instead of being slaves to greed and torture.Anyway iraq is better now then before with saddam and in 5-10 years from now they will remember who helped free them from greed and torture. They will remember the help of the coalition forces.Thats a bigger pay of then "oil" could ever be. You assume i ONLY get my news from CNN and FOX news but you offer no premise for concluding that. That statement is incorrect by the way. basically your entire response is just telling me to STFU which is not very intelligent response. anyone can do that possibly even a monkey. Your misinformed thats what your problem is.

Lard Assposted - Jun, 26 2003 - 22:28
listen up WHO sold SADDAM the WMD's i'll tell ya it were UK.FRANCE.GERMANY.RUSSIA.CHINA & USA so please dont give me the holy than thou crap cause these NATIONS only care about 1 thing $$$$$$$$$ and if it means innocent ppl being killed by a ruthless dicator SO BE IT as long as JOBS in the west military industry are not lost then they'll keep makin the WMDS and sellin em 2 LOONEYS across the globe, only to TAKE the HIGHER GROUND and say YEAH we gonna DISARM him not the UN way which is DIPLOMATIC no we gonna DO it the YANKEEEEE way which is BLOW THE CRAP OUTTA the WHOLE COUNTRY thus wasting BILLIONS of TAX payers DOLLARS for all the WEAPONS used to DISRUPT, MAME, KILL, DEHUMANISE and CRIPPLE the NATION back 2 the STONE AGE and then they will RELY on the WEST to BUILD the country with its CORPORATIONS and then PAY this MAFIA CORPS & MILITARY OPS with the OIL pulled out of the GROUND that was SUPPOSED 2 be in control and for the people. I say BUSH u bombed them u PAY for them 2 REBUILD dumbass not use the ppl's OIL to rebuild the country, just like JAQUE CHERAQUE said of FRANCE ur bombs caused the distruction now u do the recontruction ! Enough of this debate ur not looking at this with an OPEN mind if u think FREEDOM was the REASON then this so called FREEDOM the IRAQI ppl r living with just like the AFGHANIES is nothing more than OCCUPATION by FORCE !

{posted - Jun, 27 2003 - 03:29
THE USA,RUSSIA,FRANCE,GERMANY,RUSSIA,CHINA AND ALL COUNTRIES THAT HAVE SIGNED THE NUCLEAR NON-PROLIFERATION TREATY CAN'T PRODUCE NUCLEAR WEAPONS. ITS ILLEGAL UNDER THAT TREATY. you can't just "hide" the production of nuclear weapons without someone finding out there is such a thing as a "Intelligence agency" so spare me the ridiculous conclusion that they are producing nuclear weapons. You did not even offer any reason to believe what you said. IF THESE NATIONS ONLY CARE ABOUT CASH they why have they been donating billions of dollars to other countries in africe,asia,south america to help them with food and medicine over the last 20 years? why have they sent peace keeping forces? why the hell would you sell WMD to a leader(saddam) who has invaded 2 countries IRAN and kuwait? your statement is completely idiotic. you don't help the enemy? ?? YOU seem to forget that the UN diplomatic WAY has been going on for the last 12 YEARS saddam was presented with numerous chances to disarm over a 12 YEAR period there has to come a time where ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and the leader MUST comply. He decided not to comply when his last chance was given who's fault its that? DO YOU NEED 12 YEARS TO DISARM? UMM NO. should the people of iraq be allowed to suffer for another 5-10 years while we debate? does it really make sense to let him continue defying the UN will for another 5-10 years? umm NO! i don't want any country to get NUKED by saddam. and lets no forget SADDAM HAS USED WMD ON CIVILIANS ON PURPOSE. A large portion of coalition weapons are SMART weapons that have an accuracy of 90%. where not talking ww2 where you drop 1000 bombs to bomb 1 building and about 800 of them miss. today you fire 1 bomb and most of the time it hits the target. AS FOR PAYING TO REBULID IRAQ numerous countries are paying to build iraq NOT just iraq. Some of those countries are the coalition and some are outside the coalition. who pays to keep order in the streets? iraq? no the troops are under coalition control OR A possibly today a non-coalition international force. FREEDOM IS NOT THE ONLY REASON WHY INVASION OCCURED i totally agree with out there as i have said previously. as for occupation well im not sure what you mean? IF YOU THINK THEY ARE GOING TO STAY THERE FOREVER THEN YOU WRONG. you can't just beat up a country and then leave. They have to stay there to HELP the country get on its feet. otherwise total chaos and anarchy would break out. even a couple days ago the coalition stated it would soon start training an NEW irAq army why do that if your going to KEEP the country? afghanistan already has an army and its continuing to grow. just like its got a NEW inter-leader. how can it be an occupation if the coalition is taking steps to give control back the people right after removing the previous HOSTILE regime? what your saying makes no sense. ALL I can say to you is your so out of touch with reality. It seems like your missing a lot of information thats why your making inaccurate conclusions. i Suggest you get more data before making obviously stupid remarks. read a logic book then you become smarter. And explore the situtation don't just READ THE HEADLINES. Believing something without a good reason is dumb. but even if you have a one good reason other factors must be consider. its not linear a to b to c. life is more complex. if you presented something cogent then maybe i would consider what you got to say.since you have not i won't. its seems like all your going on is rumors and speculation.anyway best luck to you.

{posted - Jun, 27 2003 - 03:31
try not to bite me Lard ass LOL?

Lard Assposted - Jun, 27 2003 - 09:07
who said UK.FRANCE.GERMANY.RUSSIA.CHINA & USA sold saddam or korea nukes ? i said UK.FRANCE.GERMANY.RUSSIA.CHINA & USA sold saddam CHEMICAL & BIOLOGICAL WMDS so again go back 2 ur CIA paymasters as u dont seem to LISTEN 2 anything being SAID the fact of HYPOCRITIC leaders with FOREIGN POLICIES used to SCREW third world nations into giving the USA corps its minerals,and natural resources to fund its ECONOMY and not 2 mention the MILITARY who have 2 justify their existence now and then by provoking nations to fight between themselves for WESTERN corporations be it over DIAMONDS in the WEST of AFRICA or OIL in the MIDDLE EAST, then the US MILITARY go against the UN SECURITY COUNCIL (i repeat) and do FULL scale OPERATIONS just like in the FIRST gulf war except they didnt bother going 2 BAGHDAD as they thought the POLITICAL TIMING wasnt right and now who's next IRAN? SYRIA ? while GWBUSH LOOKS for any DIPLOMATIC means to resolve the NORTH KOREA issue while they restart their NUKE program and having kicked the UN WEAPONS inspectors out, ! what a friggin joke the CURRENT US ADMIN r nothing more than GOLDIGGERS and NORTH KOREA has proved it, its FOREGIN POLICY is a JOKE and a frightening one 2, PREEMTIVE STRIKE { - } dip that in ur TEA and EAT it !

{posted - Jun, 27 2003 - 10:48
what you said did not seem clear to me. i understand what you mean know about the WMD know cause your being more clear. yes i agree it was probably stupid of them to sell the chemical and bio weapons to such a brutal regime. However time change and new values emerge. That type of behaviour is no longer acccepted in the USA and NATO i don't know about the other countries. They have stated that publicly so if they got caught they would LOOK EXTREMELY DUMB.And the CIA is not exactly perfect to defend the possible secret. Does the USA have chemical and bio weapons yes i think so. why? for research to defend agaisnt chemical and bio attack just like most other countries do. WHy can't saddam have them? cause he signed a treaty after the gulf war that states iraq must disarm and have no WMD. If you consider the alternative off talking for another 10 years buy that time the treaty he signed would be meaningless. And he could have WMD and start another war and kill billions of people. If your prememtive you Eliminate that harmful possiblity but being FIRM. Iraq started all this by invading kuwait. Then the international community acted and removed him from kuwait. THEY HAD A FINAL CHANCE AND THEY CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT. People words are meaningless unless they take action to back it up. I can punch you in the face every 2 minutes and after each interval of 2 minutes say ok ill stop but if i don't do it what you going to do talk to me for a whole day? you could be dead by then you got have some common sense and realize no im not going to stop im trying to kill you and kill me instead.Same thing with iraq. Saddam was given many chances and was treated fairly. As for the UN security council NO your totally wrong they did NOT GO agaisnt the UN Security council they broke no law stating they could not invade without approval from the UN. approval to invade already exsited under PREVIOUS resolutions that threated DEADLY FORCE if iraq did not comply. the last resolution was not the FIRST resolution to threaten that iraq could face deadly force if it did not comply. basically saddam was making the entire world look like idiots for letting him get away without disarming fully for 12 years. the whole notion of preemtive strike is to stop threats from becoming so bad that when you decided to deal with them there are super hard to deal with. its easier to kill a baby bear than a adult bear.The world is an extremely dangerous place right know more dangerous then it was during ww2. they are thousands of terrorist groups and harsh countries supporting them. terrorism is ANTI-HUMAN.If you ignore the hostile countries sooner or later another 911 will occur. i don't understand your statement "the CURRENT US ADMIN r nothing more than GOLDIGGERS and NORTH KOREA has proved it," how have they proved it? the US,japan,south korea and some of its partners paid(with resources and money) north korea to stop its nuke program then north korea admitted they still had one and then the US,japan,south korea and its partners stopped payment? are you talking about this? or something else? north korea gets food aid from other countries (possibly including the US i forget if they still supplying) cause it won't spend enough money on its people it re-invests most back into the military.--------------------- The north korea issue is far MORE dangerous than iraq. its probably better to talk to them first, cause any war with them could be EXTREMELY BLOODY.like millions of people WILL die if a war continues between north and south korea. but on the other hand if you wait they build more nukes. And could sell them to terrorist and then say the captial of canada blows up or some other city somewhere in a country! OSAMA's terrorist network is not the only one on the planet. They are thousands of terror groups. yes north korea does sells weapons to terrorists. The military has tons of operations going on besides iraq and afganistan. they are lots of hots spots in africa,columbia,indosenia,philipines,kosovo, e.t.c. where military operations are active. it makes no sense to reduce your military strength by fighting a war unless its for security purposes.you see what you want to see not whats really there. im not saying US is perfect they have done lots of stupid things during the iraq conflict like for example 1.stating military personal should not be in schools and then houses troops in a school accidentally.your the one who is not listening. aLL I see from you are vague ideas with no supportive reasons to back up what you saying.you really need to learn how to make an argument. Thats my last word so you get the last word lol! and no i don't drink tea or coffee.

Lard Assposted - Jun, 28 2003 - 01:04
LOL "i agree it was probably stupid" STUPID is something u do to the yourself such as pouring milk on ur head, not in terms of making a region of the world MORE unstable than it is by selling a particular DICTATOR WMD which he may use on his neighbours but more likely to use them against his own ppl, so its all FOREIGN POLICY b4 weapons R sold to another country agreements r signed by only a select few who have the authority 2 do so such as members of GOVERNMENT which again goes back 2 the FOREIGN POLICY and the intentions behind nations with a hidden agenda which u seem 2 overlook everytime the clues and facts R staring u blantly in the FACE ! I rest MY case.

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