Hello im a fan of the id engine:(Doom, Wolfenstein Quake) im just wondering how long did it take to get it right and to make it work. Im going into programming and hopefully make a game one day. Thanks! level 2 John Romero: The Commander Keen engine took a few weeks to get done. The Wolfenstein 3D engine was mostly done in 6 weeks. The DOOM engine was mostly done in 4 months. The Quake engine took 12 months. But.... we're talking about John Carmack here. :) Good luck in your game dev career! Have you ever pirated a game? John Romero: When I was a kid, most of my games were pirated. If it wasn't for all those pirated games, I wouldn't have done what I did in my career. So, giving my shareware episodes away for free always felt like I was letting people have fun without guilt.