Gameguru Mania Updated:12:00 PM CEST Sep,21
66 lottery login

91 club

okwin

bdg game

55 club

Playbonus.ca
CONTACT
Please e-mail us if you have news.

(c) 1998-2025 Gameguru Mania
Privacy Policy statement
SEARCH:
 Gameguru Mania News - Oct,02 2011 -  
Is Chrome Poised to Pass Firefox in 2011? - tech
(hx) 12:29 AM CEST - Oct,02 2011 - Post a comment / read (22)
Google Chrome is the up-and-coming browser in 2011, with its sights set on passing the #2 browser Firefox before the end of this year. If the trends continue unchanged, Chrome could just possibly pass Internet Explorer in 2012 to become the world’s most popular browser.
Google's Chrome is poised to become the second-biggest Web browser in the world before the end of the year, according to StatCounter. If trends as measured by the Ireland-based Web statistics firm's analytics tools hold up, Chrome will pass Mozilla's Firefox sometime in December and trail only Microsoft's Internet Explorer (IE) in global average user share.

Computerworld's Gregg Keizer looked at the trend lines in user growth for the three browsers as presented by StatCounter (graph below) and saw Chrome growing in popularity at about double the rate as projected over 12 months that Firefox and IE were each losing share since January of this year.

Firefox started 2010 with about 31 percent of user share and was sitting at 26.8 percent as of last Wednesday, according to StatCounter. Chrome, meanwhile, rocketed up from just over 15 percent user share in January to 23.6 percent in September. That puts the two browsers on a collision course to swap spots in the overall user share rankings when (or more precisely, if) Chrome climbs to about 25 percent of user share later this year and meets Firefox on its way down.

IE—owning 46 percent of user share in January and less than 42 percent as October begins—would be next in Google's sights, though a Chrome takeover of the top spot wouldn't happen until next August or so, extrapolating StatCounter's numbers outwards. If Chrome and IE both maintain their exact current trends in user share growth, Chrome would meet IE at about the 35 percent user share mark in the late summer of 2012 before taking over the No. 1 browser spot.
last 10 comments:
Csimbi(05:00 AM CEST - Oct,02 2011 )
quote:
... according to StatCounter. If trends as measured by the Ireland-based Web statistics firm's analytics tools hold up...
I am guessing that there are a lot of Firefox users out there that simply block these data-mining sites (via Firefox, hosts file, firewall, etc) - ergo, they are not taken into account.
So, how can you possibly claim such trend when you rely solely on a crapcounter site and hope you get hits?
What a bunch of morons, lol
BTW: why would I even care how the browser that is best in my opinion works? If I am an IE fan, I won't switch to Chrome just because others like it. Same with Firefox. So, what's the point?

-=WolverinE=-(08:08 AM CEST - Oct,02 2011 )
Csimbi> ...So, what's the point?

E-peen? :lol:

Koogle(07:03 PM CEST - Oct,02 2011 )
For all I care all other internet users could be using some other noobshit browser like spyChrome, dummIEs browser and flOpera.

As a power user, I don't see myself jumping to another browser platform that is better on all fronts than Firefox for a while..

My browser E-peen is over 9000 :P


gx-x(08:55 PM CEST - Oct,02 2011 )
ZOMG Koogle :D

btw. stupid ass Chrome doesn't even (still) have smoothscrolling, it feels like playing a game in 10fps when you scroll and shit.

Koogle(10:03 PM CEST - Oct,02 2011 )
I remember when the Chrome team took months from reported beta issue to get press/release and sticky button smoothscroll working. It originally only had one method, and even then they screwed up, because invoking the smoothscroll would make the mouse cursor jump position slightly from where you initiated smoothscrolling. This was after Chrome was out in in public release..

I just don't get how anyone can screw up that kind of development when their biggest market competition is IE, a browser than has had specific stuff like that implemented to an acceptable user experience level for over a decade.

Still I'm surprised by the amount of extension development that has happened for Chrome so far, its been a bit slow, yet there some fairly comparable alternative Firefox extensions to strap onto the Chrome browser.. nothing that would make me switch... as Chrome itself has some awful designed areas and its overal performance when you start using strapons with things like switching tabs. Shows up the flaws that page rendering benchmarks hide, and its really just as bad as IE in UX dumbification, actually no that is too much of an insult to IE, as it least has some semi decent things like sidebar panels for feeds/bookmarks etc.. where cheap ass Chrome goes full retard with lets put everything into a fucking tab, options, downloads, bookmarks, etc , and yet no implemented splitting dual view setup or sidebar) total stupidification design to me really.

If there was no Firefox, I swear I would probably be using Opera or Maxthon2 (because M3 is still shit).

gx-x(12:17 AM CEST - Oct,03 2011 )
I am actually using opera 11 for a few days and I find it a bit of relief that with same number of tabs opened, after 5-6 hrs it doesn't take over 1GB of ram and slows down like firefox does...oh well, I have some specific problem with firefox since version 4, I can't seem to get rid of it. It just starts clogging up the system and slows down everything. Solution? Open task manager (just that) and problem is gone. :S

(01:29 AM CEST - Oct,03 2011 )
gx-x> .oh well, I have some specific problem with firefox since version 4, I can't seem to get rid of it. It just starts clogging up the system and slows down everything. Solution? Open task manager (just that) and problem is gone. :S

I've exactly the same problem :-( (probably since FF 5.x)

gx-x(01:37 AM CEST - Oct,03 2011 )
heretic> gx-x> .oh well, I have some specific problem with firefox since version 4, I can't seem to get rid of it. It just starts clogging up the system and slows down everything. Solution? Open task manager (just that) and problem is gone. :S

I've exactly the same problem :-( (probably since FF 5.x)

sorry to hear that, I know your pain. I still keep firefox as default browser in hope that one day I will find the solution. (windows reinstall didn't help with FF 4 final :( )

(01:48 AM CEST - Oct,03 2011 )
gx-x> heretic> gx-x> .oh well, I have some specific problem with firefox since version 4, I can't seem to get rid of it. It just starts clogging up the system and slows down everything. Solution? Open task manager (just that) and problem is gone. :S

I've exactly the same problem :-( (probably since FF 5.x)

sorry to hear that, I know your pain. I still keep firefox as default browser in hope that one day I will find the solution. (windows reinstall didn't help with FF 4 final :( )

Yeah, I've tried nearly everything, including 'browser.cache.memory.enable == false', reset TCP/IP stack etc, etc ..This bug really driving me crazy..I've already installed Chrome...but it's difficult to switch - plugins FYI, FF 7.01 Win7 Ultimate ENG 64-bit, ESET NOD32 4.x

Baconnaise(01:50 AM CEST - Oct,03 2011 )
Yea memory usage is a problem with FF. IE9 is ok but it bogs down on facebook games among other things even worse. Chrome isn't ready for prime time. They really should of kept it as a beta of sorts at most and fleshed it out more. Opera is cool but it's not FF.

I just won't take a browser a seriously anymore unless it has adblock and noscript at the least. Addons are a problem as they hog memory and slow down FF but they are worth it imo. Have you guys tried running IE or with your addons disabled? Large difference even with only two installed.

gx-x(02:36 AM CEST - Oct,03 2011 )
heretic> gx-x> heretic> gx-x> .oh well, I have some specific problem with firefox since version 4, I can't seem to get rid of it. It just starts clogging up the system and slows down everything. Solution? Open task manager (just that) and problem is gone. :S

I've exactly the same problem :-( (probably since FF 5.x)

sorry to hear that, I know your pain. I still keep firefox as default browser in hope that one day I will find the solution. (windows reinstall didn't help with FF 4 final :( )

Yeah, I've tried nearly everything, including 'browser.cache.memory.enable == false', reset TCP/IP stack etc, etc ..This bug really driving me crazy..I've already installed Chrome...but it's difficult to switch - plugins FYI, FF 7.01 Win7 Ultimate ENG 64-bit, ESET NOD32 4.x

tried it too. Also tried vacuuming the databases etc etc. Nothing works. My setup is win 7 x64, (not sp1), avira free...I though it was due to AV at first or some virus but checked it all...nothing.

Koogle(02:53 AM CEST - Oct,03 2011 )
Only issue I've ever had with Firefox and bad memory hogging was an old bug in 3.5 (was fixed in 4) and that was some downloads started using firefox own download manager would be stored in ram even though it was written to .part disk file. Would cause crashes on single large files over 1gb, an odd one really.

Otherwise Firefox platform memory usage is great for what it does, and I generally have on average around over 15 tabs open all the time with Fx left open for hours, that's around 500mb taking into account 70+ extensions aswel.. that's acceptable to me, 50tabs is ~700mb of actually memory usage. And slowing down over time? nah don't get that. Though it would be down to page file getting used to make for more free memory if your system was starved of memory while some other app/game was using it.. using Firefox later would require it to hit the pagefile and bring more back into memory before it was working as fast.. like cycling through tabs instantly without any disk caching.

Also some extensions make up for their own tiny memory footprint by reducing stuff not being loaded like adblock & noscript do.

Anyway nothing to really compare here as its site and usage specific, only thing I could say is that Fx7 had more work done on memory/ performance. Personally I wouldn't switch to any other browser even if it offered 70% memory usage cut, it would undoubtedly mean a 70% feature, option, extension and customization cut aswel :lol:

http://gregor-wagner.com/

gx-x(03:11 AM CEST - Oct,03 2011 )
Koogle> Only issue I've ever had with Firefox and bad memory hogging was an old bug in 3.5 (was fixed in 4) and that was some downloads started using firefox own download manager would be stored in ram even though it was written to .part disk file. Would cause crashes on single large files over 1gb, an odd one really.

Otherwise Firefox platform memory usage is great for what it does, and I generally have on average around over 15 tabs open all the time with Fx left open for hours, that's around 500mb taking into account 70+ extensions aswel.. that's acceptable to me, 50tabs is ~700mb of actually memory usage. And slowing down over time? nah don't get that. Though it would be down to page file getting used to make for more free memory if your system was starved of memory while some other app/game was using it.. using Firefox later would require it to hit the pagefile and bring more back into memory before it was working as fast.. like cycling through tabs instantly without any disk caching.

Also some extensions make up for their own tiny memory footprint by reducing stuff not being loaded like adblock & noscript do.

Anyway nothing to really compare here as its site and usage specific, only thing I could say is that Fx7 had more work done on memory/ performance. Personally I wouldn't switch to any other browser even if it offered 70% memory usage cut, it would undoubtedly mean a 70% feature, option, extension and customization cut aswel :lol:

http://gregor-wagner.com/

[URL=http://imgur.com/SFUYA][/URL]

...I have adblockplus, grease monkey, hide caption bar and firegestures. That's about it. After closing it and opening it memory usage (same tabs as in the picture above) is ~290MB. I leave it for 8 hrs (I go to sleep) and it reaches 1GB and it does absolutely nothing in that time.
but my real problem is not with memory, I have enough it, but with FF slowing down (like if you would to turn off the smoothscroll and put a celeron 433 procesor instead of a c2d) at random. Like I said, as soon as that happens just open task manager and 1 second later it is back to normal operation.

Koogle(03:12 AM CEST - Oct,03 2011 )
quote:
Yeah, I've tried nearly everything, including 'browser.cache.memory.enable == false', reset TCP/IP stack etc, etc ..This bug really driving me crazy..I've already installed Chrome...but it's difficult to switch - plugins FYI, FF 7.01 Win7 Ultimate ENG 64-bit, ESET NOD32 4.x


ESET NOD32 4.x, and disabling Firefox plugins (not extensions) like Java, Quicktime etc You could check about:memory and monitor things more like when its getting slow.

Also I have Firefox GPU acceleration disabled (gfx.direct2d.disabled=true) ..Direct2d page acceleration is pointless shit for anyone with a decent CPU at least until the websites start becoming full blown rich media.. its really just asking for troubles as its early days for it, and gpu font rendering even with the options just ain't as good as Windows cleartype GDI imo.

Koogle(03:30 AM CEST - Oct,03 2011 )
quote:
I leave it for 8 hrs (I go to sleep) and it reaches 1GB and it does absolutely nothing in that time.

What if you left it open with no tabs open? It does look like some sort of memory leak going on.

Have you tried using default theme, disabling greasemonkey( or any general scripts ) ..just using vanilla firefox?

quote:
Like I said, as soon as that happens just open task manager and 1 second later it is back to normal operation.

Oh so not a pagefile issue, well all I can think of is it sounds like gpu issue then, try disabling hardware acceleration for firefox.

Works good for me anyway :D Could always try http://www.palemoon.org/download-ng.shtml

gx-x(04:13 AM CEST - Oct,03 2011 )
Koogle> quote:
Yeah, I've tried nearly everything, including 'browser.cache.memory.enable == false', reset TCP/IP stack etc, etc ..This bug really driving me crazy..I've already installed Chrome...but it's difficult to switch - plugins FYI, FF 7.01 Win7 Ultimate ENG 64-bit, ESET NOD32 4.x


ESET NOD32 4.x, and disabling Firefox plugins (not extensions) like Java, Quicktime etc You could check about:memory and monitor things more like when its getting slow.

Also I have Firefox GPU acceleration disabled (gfx.direct2d.disabled=true) ..Direct2d page acceleration is pointless shit for anyone with a decent CPU at least until the websites start becoming full blown rich media.. its really just asking for troubles as its early days for it, and gpu font rendering even with the options just ain't as good as Windows cleartype GDI imo.

tried it all, hell, run it in safe mode (firefox) same thing. about:memory shows bunch entries mainly in java scripts from pages that have been opened then closed, or if there any open ones there are lot's of duplicate ones.

on the other note, font rendering is as good as windows GDI since version 6. Is GPU acceleration working when FF is startted in safe mode? if yes, then I might give that a try.
the thing is, not every release of firefox gave me this problems, ff4 did, 5 didn't 6 did and 7 also does this crap...Anyway, I am finding Opera quite ok for now since I don't have a need for many plugins/addons ad it has addblock which works fine.

Csimbi(11:54 PM CEST - Oct,04 2011 )
I do not mind using more RAM - efficiently, that is. I have 16Gs. Load the whole cache if you want - as long as my browsing experience is smooth.
Same with games. Very few of them uses more than 2Gs; they keep re-loading the crap from the disk, introducing long load times for no reason. I do not understand why can't they detect the amount of memory available and use it... Would reduce load times a lot, considering that all game data would fit into the memory (most games are 10Gs or less).

Anyway, I do close Firefox once I am down browsing so the memory footprint never gets above 300megs or so (which is far from the 1G you are talking about).

I understand 7.0 already brings some initial improvements in terms of memory usage, and more of those improvements are queued up for the next releases. The truth to that remains to be seen however...

gx-x(12:08 AM CEST - Oct,05 2011 )
Csimbi> I do not mind using more RAM - efficiently, that is. I have 16Gs. Load the whole cache if you want - as long as my browsing experience is smooth.
Same with games. Very few of them uses more than 2Gs; they keep re-loading the crap from the disk, introducing long load times for no reason. I do not understand why can't they detect the amount of memory available and use it... Would reduce load times a lot, considering that all game data would fit into the memory (most games are 10Gs or less).

Anyway, I do close Firefox once I am down browsing so the memory footprint never gets above 300megs or so (which is far from the 1G you are talking about).

I understand 7.0 already brings some initial improvements in terms of memory usage, and more of those improvements are queued up for the next releases. The truth to that remains to be seen however...

well you can create RAM drive, install game on it and run it from memory, loading or not, you won't know the difference :P

Csimbi(01:32 AM CEST - Oct,05 2011 )
gx-x> well you can create RAM drive, install game on it and run it from memory, loading or not, you won't know the difference :P
I know. Just sad, isn't it?
Software today are not designed to utilize all available memory - I hope that will change eventually.

(07:38 PM CEST - Oct,05 2011 )
To be honest, I cannot find where is problem ....I've downgraded to 4.x :\

gx-x(07:45 PM CEST - Oct,05 2011 )
heretic> To be honest, I cannot find where is problem ....I've downgraded to 4.x :\

well, it isn't in the browser. Opera 11.1 that I use currently exhibited the same slowdown issue, but it was one in 2 days, whereas FF did it every few hours. I measured system latency (response) and it is fine, no spikes when the problem occurs. I am out of ideas :/ It may be that some site can cause this with lots of monkey coded java scripts, such as eRepublik since that is the only such site that I use and the game is coded by monkeys

(11:15 PM CEST - Oct,11 2011 )
SOLUTION FOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://blog.bonardo.net/2011/09/30/is-your-firefor-freezing-at-regular-intervals

We've identified a bug that may cause, under certain circumstances, periodic freezes of the Firefox UI, in terms of a short freeze every about 9 minutes. This only affects a small amount of users, so, if you don't notice this behavior, you can stop reading.
If you think you are suffering this bug, stay sure it will be solved in Firefox 8. In the meanwhile, here is a simple workaround to fix the issue:


Install my Places Maintenance add-on

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/places-maintenance/

1. Go to about:addons and open the add-on Options dialog
2. Select the Expire operation and click Execute
3. If you wish, uninstall the add-on (it's restartless, so the process is straight-forward)

All comments
 Add your comment (free registration required)


Related news:
Microsoft flags new remote access trojan targeting crypto wallet extensions on Chrome browser - tech (Mar 18 2025)
Here's why Chrome is SLOW (It's NOT your RAM) - tech (May 14 2024)
New Google Chrome UI in Windows 10/11 (How to Enable) - tech (Oct 06 2023)
Edge vs Chrome: Phishing Test - tech (Jun 12 2023)
Beware Malicious Chrome Extensions! - tech (May 17 2023)
STOP Using Chrome! (use THIS instead) - tech (Nov 19 2022)
Google extends Chrome support for Windows 7 - tech (Nov 23 2020)
Google to support Chrome on Windows 7 until at least mid-2021 - tech (Jan 11 2020)
Enable Google Chrome 74 Dark Mode In Windows 10 - tech (Apr 25 2019)
Blazing Chrome stage 4-1 gameplay (60 FPS) - briefly (Jan 02 2019)
Blazing Chrome launches for PC in early 2019 - movie (Nov 14 2018)
Chrome / Firefox accusing me of distributing malware - briefly (Sep 22 2018)
TechNews - Edge Beats Chrome Again - tech (May 27 2018)
Google Chrome WARNING - Millions could be hit by latest malware - tech (Sep 08 2017)
Trainers: Chrome/Firefox Download warning Fix - gameguru review (Jul 05 2017)
TechNews - Chrome Support Ending For Windows XP - tech (Nov 13 2015)
Chrome World Wide Maze - tech (Mar 21 2013)
Google Unveils Chrome Web App Store - briefly (May 20 2010)
Technews - Chrome OS Conceptual Shots - tech (May 15 2010)
TechNews - Chrome OS boots quickly - tech (Nov 28 2009)
Google releases Chrome OS information - tech (Nov 20 2009)
Chrome Engine 4 - Living Environment Trailer - movie (Jul 09 2009)
Google announces Chrome based Operating System - tech (Jul 08 2009)
Chrome 2 movie - movie (Aug 29 2006)
BioShock, Chrome 2, Dead Island shots - media (May 16 2006)
S3 Chrome S27 benchmarked - tech (Nov 09 2005)
Chrome SpecForce Q&A - gameguru review (Jul 19 2005)
Chrome Specforce in August 2005 - briefly (Jun 27 2005)
Chrome SpecForce goes gold - gold (Jun 08 2005)
New Chrome MP Demo - demo (Feb 18 2004)
Chrome MP Xmas Trial - demo (Dec 19 2003)
C&C Generals ZH, Chrome, Halo, Life For Speed patches - patch (Dec 16 2003)
Chrome single-player demo v1.1.1.0 - demo (Nov 07 2003)
Chrome - gameguru review (Nov 05 2003)
Chrome MP Demo - demo (Oct 31 2003)
Chrome (EU) English patch - patch (Sep 20 2003)
Chrome Demo - demo (Sep 03 2003)
Chrome Goes Gold - gold (Aug 25 2003)
Chrome Delayed - briefly (Jun 19 2003)
Chrome interview - interview (Jun 15 2003)
Chrome MP Details - briefly (May 30 2003)
Chrome Preview & Trailer - media (May 27 2003)
E3: Chrome, Etherlords II, Warlords IV, Matrix Online Shots - media (May 14 2003)
Chrome Preview - preview (Apr 15 2003)
Chrome Shots - media (Apr 02 2003)
Chrome Shots & Info - media (Mar 10 2003)
Chrome Shots - media (Feb 07 2003)
Chrome Interview - interview (Feb 07 2003)
Strategy First to publish Chrome - briefly (Jan 08 2003)

related cheats/trainer:

Chrome Specforce [unlocker]
Chrome v1.10.0 [trainer +2]
Chrome [cheats]
Chrome: SpecForce [trainer +3]
Chromentum.v1.11 [all access cheats]
Neon Chrome V 1.1.7 [trainer +6]


 External links
A Star Of Chrome PC game found on STEAM...
AI: THE SOMNIUM FILES - nirvanA Initiative DLC Monochrome Set PC game found on STEAM...
Blazing Chrome cheats PC found on GAMECOPYWORLD...
Blazing Chrome cheats PC found on CHEATINGDOME...
Blazing Chrome cheats Xbox One found on CHEATINGDOME...
Blazing Chrome PC game found on STEAM...
Blazing Chrome - Official Game Guide PC game found on STEAM...
CP x3 - Chrome Wolf PC game found on STEAM...
Damage x2 - Chrome Wolf PC game found on STEAM...
echochrome cheats PS3 found on CHEATINGDOME...
echochrome 2 cheats PS3 found on CHEATINGDOME...
Experience & CP x2 - Chrome Wolf PC game found on STEAM...
Experience x3 - Chrome Wolf PC game found on STEAM...
Fantasy Grounds - Cyberpunk Red Black Chrome PC game found on STEAM...
Hazy Monochrome Wand PC game found on STEAM...
Chrome cheats PC found on GAMECOPYWORLD...
Chrome cheats PC found on CHEATINGDOME...
Chrome cheats PC found on CHEATBOOK...
Chrome PC game found on STEAM...
Chrome - SpecForce Trailer 1 PC game found on STEAM...
Chrome Hounds cheats Xbox 360 found on CHEATINGDOME...
Chrome SpecForce cheats PC found on GAMECOPYWORLD...
Chrome SpecForce cheats PC found on CHEATINGDOME...
Chrome Specforce cheats PC found on CHEATBOOK...
CHROME SWEAT PC game found on STEAM...
Chrome Switcher PC game found on STEAM...
Chrome Switcher Demo PC game found on STEAM...
Chrome Trailer 1 PC game found on STEAM...
Chrome Wolf cheats PS4 found on CHEATINGDOME...
Chrome Wolf PC game found on STEAM...
Chrome: Specforce PC game found on STEAM...
Insurgency: Sandstorm - Chrome Weapon Skin Set PC game found on STEAM...
Land of War - Chrome Vis PC game found on STEAM...
Living With Sister: Monochrome Fantasy cheats PC found on CHEATBOOK...
Living With Sister: Monochrome Fantasy PC game found on STEAM...
Monochrome cheats PC found on GAMECOPYWORLD...
Monochrome Heights PC game found on STEAM...
Monochrome Mobius: Rights and Wrongs Forgotten cheats PC found on CHEATBOOK...
Monochrome Mobius: Rights and Wrongs Forgotten PC game found on STEAM...
Monochrome Mobius: Rights and Wrongs Forgotten - Soundtrack “Prelude” PC game found on STEAM...
Monochrome Mobius: Rights and Wrongs Forgotten - Visual Book PC game found on STEAM...
Monochrome Order cheats Xbox One found on CHEATINGDOME...
Monochrome Order PC game found on STEAM...
Monochrome RPG Episode 1: The Maniacal Morning PC game found on STEAM...
Monochrome RPG Episode 1: The Maniacal Morning Demo PC game found on STEAM...
Monochrome World PC game found on STEAM...
Neon Chrome cheats PC found on GAMECOPYWORLD...
Neon Chrome cheats PC found on CHEATINGDOME...
Neon Chrome cheats Xbox One found on CHEATINGDOME...
Neon Chrome cheats PS4 found on CHEATINGDOME...
Neon Chrome cheats PC found on CHEATBOOK...
Neon Chrome PC game found on STEAM...
Neon Chrome - Arena PC game found on STEAM...
Neon Chrome - Original Soundtrack PC game found on STEAM...
No Encounters - Chrome Wolf PC game found on STEAM...
No Skill Cost - Chrome Wolf PC game found on STEAM...
PAC-MAN WORLD Re-PAC Chrome Noir Chogokin skin PC game found on STEAM...
Unichrome: a 1-Bit Unicorn Adventure PC game found on STEAM...