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CrossFireX vs. SLI New Games Performance - tech
(hx) 01:51 AM CEST - Oct,12 2010 - Post a comment / read (7)
HardOCP has posted a ATI CrossFireX vs. NVIDIA SLI new games performance article. You might be surprised to know how the GTX 480 SLI, HD 5870 CFX and GTX 460 SLI performed playing three brand new games using their apples-to-apples testing.
F1 2010 and Civilization V have been out for over two weeks now, and Dead Rising 2 has been out for over a week. Yet, we are still stuck with ATI Catalyst Application Profile 10.9 dated 9/15/2010 and here is F1 2010 performing poorly compared to the competition and Dead Rising 2 not having CrossFireX support at all! It isn't good news for NVIDIA either, in fact their SLI Profile Update 5 is dated way back to 8/16/2010 yet here is Civ 5 with broken SLI. In both cases, Dead Rising 2 did not apply the correct resolution in NV Surround and ATI Eyefinity.

The whole point of these SLI and CrossFireX profile updates are to provide updates for games between driver releases. Yet, AMD seems only content to release CrossFireX Profile updates with each driver release, only releasing new updates when someone like us complains about something. This is not good for SLI and CrossFireX customers. Quite frankly, gamers are being let down, and people playing brand new games are not getting the full benefit of their hardware. If these three games had issues, imagine how many other new games out there also have problems that people just aren't aware of. This needs to be a wakeup call.

The internet has created a sense of immediacy with PC gaming. These days gamers are able to download games at exactly the time it launches, no more having to wait for games to hit the shelves. Many of our readers had their finger on the button ready to play Civilization V the moment it was launched, already pre-loaded via Steam. This seems to be the wave of the future that is already here. The problem is, AMD and NVIDIA are not keeping up with this demand when it comes to NVIDIA SLI and ATI CrossFireX support in games. The guys that pay the most for these companies products that are the biggest gamers are getting screwed. Thanks for giving me another reason to move to console guys.

The nature of multi-GPU profiles has its weakness, and that weakness means you won't always get SLI or CrossFireX support in a game when you want to play that game. You may end up having to wait weeks, or months before proper multi-GPU acceleration is provided to you. This fact is not new, and we wanted to see if things have gotten better, but they haven't. In fact, these new games we have used here today have been out now for 1-2 weeks, yet all of them seem to have an issue of sort with either CrossFireX or SLI scaling properly, and no profile updates have been released. As a gamer who has invested much money in a dual-GPU configuration, this is frustrating.
last 10 comments:
Ozieo(07:26 AM CEST - Oct,12 2010 )
I still don't understand why some are paying double the money for nothing more than frustration and disappointment.

psolord(10:30 AM CEST - Oct,12 2010 )
quote:
We are going to start with F1 2010 because quite frankly, it was the only game to give us no trouble at all.


What the FUCK is he talking about? Has he ever benchmarked Grid or Dirt 2 on similar configurations?

He should also had thrown in single gpu benchmarks for good measure.

Still, it is nice to have someone benchmarking newer games.


@ozieo
As I said before, you only need multi gpu for high res/high settings. If you try to play games like, Bad Company 2, Crysis, Warhead, Metro 2033, Lost Planet 2, Mafia 2 and many others at max settings, with a target framerate of 60fps+, you do need a couple of gpus to do the work for you.

Truth be told, owning two 5850s, I have found myself playing most games with one card. Still, I cannot describe the smoothness of heavy games like the above, when two gpus are in play.

Yes you pay for diminishing returns for the most part, in the respect that most games run above 60fps with a single high end card, so a second one is not needed, but the point is, if you got the enthusiasm, why the hell not do it?

Don't forget, that besides gameplay itself, benchmarking stuff is fun as well. Drag racing is useless, but some people love it. Same goes for myriad other things.

Crossfire support, has been overall good, for the whole year I own my 5850s. There were some fuck ups here and there, but when someone desides to go for multi gpu, should be conscious and alerted of what he is choosing. There are pluses and there are minuses.

El_Coyote(02:35 PM CEST - Oct,12 2010 )
psolord> quote:
We are going to start with F1 2010 because quite frankly, it was the only game to give us no trouble at all.


What the FUCK is he talking about? Has he ever benchmarked Grid or Dirt 2 on similar configurations?



to be fair grid and dirt2 is also codemasters games and run other iterations of the same engine. So problems are not expected on those titles anyway

psolord(03:05 PM CEST - Oct,12 2010 )
El_Coyote> psolord> quote:
We are going to start with F1 2010 because quite frankly, it was the only game to give us no trouble at all.


What the FUCK is he talking about? Has he ever benchmarked Grid or Dirt 2 on similar configurations?



to be fair grid and dirt2 is also codemasters games and run other iterations of the same engine. So problems are not expected on those titles anyway


No you got me wrong.

Yes they are CODEMASTERS games and that makes it even worse. My point being....using my very own benchmarks below.

YouTube - RACE DRIVER GRID 1920x1080 4XAA ATI 4850 @750MHz E6600 @3.0GHz result 60fps avg

YouTube - F1 2010 DX9 ULTRA 1920x1080 4XAA ATI 4850 @750MHz E6600 @3.0GHz result 33fps avg

On my 5850, Dirt 2 is faster in maxed DX11 than F1 2010 DX9.

On my GTX 460, Dirt 2 is faster in DX9 16XCFAA than F1 2010 DX9 4XAA.

gx-x(05:21 PM CEST - Oct,12 2010 )
@psolord

they were probably referring to sli/cf working with no problems, not that the game itself has no problems.

psolord(08:31 PM CEST - Oct,12 2010 )
gx-x> @psolord

they were probably referring to sli/cf working with no problems, not that the game itself has no problems.


Oh OK.

Still i cannot verify their findings. My crossfire setup run like donkey balls.

Maybe due to the huge fuck up on the CPU side, I could not see the scaling on my 1920X1080 res.

gx-x(09:17 PM CEST - Oct,12 2010 )
Since last year, I can't verify anything from HardOCP, they seem to have became totally weird with their tests/findings.

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