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NVIDIA Issues Statement Regarding GTX 970 - tech
(hx) 09:04 PM CET - Feb,24 2015 - Post a comment / read (4)
NVIDIA's co-founder Jen-Hsun Huang has issued a statement regarding the infamous VRAM reports surrounding the GeForce GTX 970. Je-Hsun Huang admitted that this memory architecture was created so that reduced-configurations of Maxwell can have a larger framebuffer (otherwise the GTX970 would come with 3GB of VRAM) and that the upper 512MB of the additional 1GB is segmented and has reduced bandwidth.
Hey everyone,

Some of you are disappointed that we didn’t clearly describe the segmented memory of GeForce GTX 970 when we launched it. I can see why, so let me address it.

We invented a new memory architecture in Maxwell. This new capability was created so that reduced-configurations of Maxwell can have a larger framebuffer – i.e., so that GTX 970 is not limited to 3GB, and can have an additional 1GB.

GTX 970 is a 4GB card. However, the upper 512MB of the additional 1GB is segmented and has reduced bandwidth. This is a good design because we were able to add an additional 1GB for GTX 970 and our software engineers can keep less frequently used data in the 512MB segment.

Unfortunately, we failed to communicate this internally to our marketing team, and externally to reviewers at launch.

Since then, Jonah Alben, our senior vice president of hardware engineering, provided a technical description of the design, which was captured well by several editors. Here's one example from The Tech Report.

Instead of being excited that we invented a way to increase memory of the GTX 970 from 3GB to 4GB, some were disappointed that we didn't better describe the segmented nature of the architecture for that last 1GB of memory.

This is understandable. But, let me be clear: Our only intention was to create the best GPU for you. We wanted GTX 970 to have 4GB of memory, as games are using more memory than ever.

The 4GB of memory on GTX 970 is used and useful to achieve the performance you are enjoying. And as ever, our engineers will continue to enhance game performance that you can regularly download using GeForce Experience.

This new feature of Maxwell should have been clearly detailed from the beginning.

We won’t let this happen again. We'll do a better job next time
last 10 comments:
Koogle(04:33 AM CET - Feb,25 2015 )
Not the first time nvidia has blatantly mislead consumers on what there products/

sure most 970's dont' care, however I'm sure a good few bought that card for a proper usable 4gb vram, and those expecting to use it properly will find out that once they go over 3.5gb in game(s) they will have even worse performance because of it.

gx-x(04:26 PM CET - Feb,25 2015 )
Koogle> Not the first time nvidia has blatantly mislead consumers on what there products/

sure most 970's dont' care, however I'm sure a good few bought that card for a proper usable 4gb vram, and those expecting to use it properly will find out that once they go over 3.5gb in game(s) they will have even worse performance because of it.


They won't, they can't. Driver locks it. Huang is full of shit. There is one game that can accidentally access those 512MB, but that will be fixed too, if not already fixed. Reality is, it's a 3.5GB card. And it's a good card.
It was wrongly marketed and Huang should save his BS for the court.

Nevertheless, this whole thing is blown out of proportion imho. You are not going to use more than 2.5~3GB VRAM on a single card, you need 2 cards for multimonitor or 4K gaming setups and 3.5GB is either enough or even 4GB wouldn't be enough. With DX12 memory from all cards will be used, meaning, if you have SLI gtx970 you will have 7GB vram available.

But, 3.5 is not 4 and nV should pay the price for this shit, whatever that price turns out to be.

I'd still rather buy GTX970 than any other AMD card because bad practice is AMD's middle name. Removing shit from drivers, shitty powerplay, shitty drivers and constant lagging behind with game support...just to name a few things...

Tom(06:51 PM CET - Feb,25 2015 )
Ya I'm fine with my lowly 660. Runs great in everything and I don't need my settings maxxed. By the time I get a new card, the drivers will have matured too. Let those with deep pockets realize the greatness of their cards or the lack of. Then I can base my upgrade off their experiences. You go run out and buy the latest a greatest as soon as it hits the shelf, you pay the consequences of owning a barely tested video card. No sympathy here for anyone who bought these cards. More money than brains.

gx-x(07:49 PM CET - Feb,25 2015 )
They don't need sympathy, cards work just fine. They worked fine before the 3.5GB news, nothing has changed for the owners really. Performance they saw in articles and reviews is still there.

If I read a review, look at the performance numbers and like them, I go out and buy the product, and am happy with it, telling me that the product is not exactly what the box says is not going to change the way it works will it?! It's still that same product that I liked.

Now, I read excuses like "but I was buying a 4GB card to be future proof", well, fu*k you sir, You were shelling out 400$ and were probably coming from a 400$ card that you bought just six months ago. Future proof to guys that throw 400+ $ at GPUs is more like 6 months to a year. This whole 3.5GB circus won't even die out yet and those 970 owners will be jumping on some new GPU.

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