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196.75 Driver causes massive overheat - tech
(hx) 10:31 AM CET - Mar,05 2010 - Post a comment / read (11)
According to Blizzard's Tech Support the latest NVIDIA drivers are causing fan control to not work correctly and causes massive overheat. StarCraft II Beta might kill your PC or card literally. So, if you already installed it, uninstall it and downgrade to the previous version. Yeah, it's that serious. Many players are reporting their PCs or graphic card have died. It also affects all Blizzard games, so heed the call and safe your hardware's life.
We're getting reports where users are getting intermittent low FPS after installing these drivers. It seems that it is related to the fan control included in these drivers not working correctly and is causing the video card to overheat on 3D applications. This will affect Warcraft 3, World of Warcraft and StarCraft 2 Beta. Please uninstall the drivers and revert back to the older ones.

Windows XP: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_196.21_whql.html
Windows XP 64-bit: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64_196.21_whql.html
Windows Vista/7 32-bit: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_196.21_whql.html
Windows Vista/7 64-bit: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_64bit_196.21_whql.html

More information can be found on threads such as these:
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=161525
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=161503

One of these gamers reported insane egg-cooking temperatures as high as 104'C. Among the complaints found in the Starcraft II Beta forums are the following: 'General ScreenshotMy GPU is going almost 100% usage and my temperatures are at 104'C, 1C below max. I'm wondering if it's because StarCraft 2 beta REALLY is a demanding game, or if it's overusing my GPU . Fans are always @ 100% and side case is off. My normal temps for (halo, mw2, oblivion are 80-90C.) in Window mode or fullscreen, doesn't matter. - Velakan.velakan'
IncGamers reached NVIDIA's PR for an official statement and they replied:
We are aware that some customers have reported fan speed issues with the latest 196.75 WHQL drivers on NVIDIA.com. Until we can verify and root cause this issue, we recommend that customers stay with, or return to 196.21 WHQL drivers. Release 196.75 drivers have been temporarily removed from our Web site in the meantime.
last 10 comments:
PoliticalMaestro(01:17 PM CET - Mar,05 2010 )
Lucky for me i still have the previous driver installed, besides can we expect an apology from the head of nvidia to the world community in failing to prevent the overheating of graphics cards ? Something like the Toyota head crying and bowing his head on international TV would suffice.

Csimbi(02:03 PM CET - Mar,05 2010 )
I use RivaTuner to manage the fan speeds, so obviously I have no such issues.
Thanks for the warning though.

Sabot(04:15 PM CET - Mar,05 2010 )
Wow, how on earth do you prove your card was fried with those drivers?
I mean Nvidia could say it was fate etc. Even with a DX diag showing date installed it wouldn't happen, imagine millions of overclockers saying Nvidia killed my card! Just to get a new one.
How on earth do warranties work? Are Nvidia at least informing card manufacturers so they can do detailed tech work on RMA's??...what a can of worms. :shock:

nb411(04:51 PM CET - Mar,05 2010 )
I noticed the fan was louder than normal when I loaded a game today but didn't think anything of it. I had quite a decent gaming session, and everything still seems ok. I have put the old drivers back on just to be safe. WHQL what?

tub0rg(05:31 PM CET - Mar,05 2010 )
unless you have a preatty old card you nearly cant fry it anyway, it will just cut out when it gets to hot and youll get a nice grey screen.

Ozieo(05:53 PM CET - Mar,05 2010 )
They should put nVidia in jail for heating the earth !!!

Tom(06:27 PM CET - Mar,05 2010 )
Ouch, glad I stuck with my existing drivers and just upgraded PhysX. I'm betting it wasn't a fault in nVidia drivers, probably the shitware from Blizzard is more at fault. There are safeguard measures built into card. If people over ride them with utilities, it's their own fault. The GPU and card will literally shutdown at certain temperatures just like the cpu on the motherboard.

Drivers don't kill cards, users kill cards. As per the norm, you can expect to see. "I don't overclock, I don't use this or that..". Pfft. Nvidia doesn't have to worry about jack Stumpus. Their drivers aren't at fault it's the game or peoples fucking around with drivers.

Sabot(06:44 PM CET - Mar,05 2010 )
I wish my BFG GeForce 7800GT had 'just shut down', prior to it failing :(
The fan was running clearly, but obviously not enough to give me an indication of its impending doom.... Not temp diode, no nothing onboard. Just locked up my system, corrupted my WinXP install -obviously thinking it was a failing HD -all indication pointed to it; bad sectors,corrupt NTFS, blah...blah. Changed HD fresh install, played fine then bang! Ascertained from there it was the card as i had the side off with a 8" fan blowing in and started to notice artifacts and so on. That card (I still have it) the fan runs and it will play less intensive games, BUT as soon as you played a heavy session BANG, OS gone etc.
So no, damage manifests itself in many ways and may take longer to show up in the long run -as the case was with my card and a slooooooowly dying fan :evil:

Tom(08:49 PM CET - Mar,05 2010 )
Stumpus> I wish my BFG GeForce 7800GT had 'just shut down', prior to it failing :(
The fan was running clearly, but obviously not enough to give me an indication of its impending doom.... Not temp diode, no nothing onboard. Just locked up my system, corrupted my WinXP install -obviously thinking it was a failing HD -all indication pointed to it; bad sectors,corrupt NTFS, blah...blah. Changed HD fresh install, played fine then bang! Ascertained from there it was the card as i had the side off with a 8" fan blowing in and started to notice artifacts and so on. That card (I still have it) the fan runs and it will play less intensive games, BUT as soon as you played a heavy session BANG, OS gone etc.
So no, damage manifests itself in many ways and may take longer to show up in the long run -as the case was with my card and a slooooooowly dying fan :evil:


What a disaster. Video card that kills your HD and OS? Well that's a new one. Now I see why you have a console. Definitely stay away from my PC's Stumpus. :lol:

tub0rg(03:40 AM CET - Mar,06 2010 )
that sounds like you burned your thermal paste between the gpu and the heatsink, if you remove the heatsink an all you see is black residue just put on fresh paste and your card should run fine.

Sabot(09:52 PM CET - Mar,06 2010 )
Tom> Stumpus> I wish my BFG GeForce 7800GT had 'just shut down', prior to it failing :(
The fan was running clearly, but obviously not enough to give me an indication of its impending doom.... Not temp diode, no nothing onboard. Just locked up my system, corrupted my WinXP install -obviously thinking it was a failing HD -all indication pointed to it; bad sectors,corrupt NTFS, blah...blah. Changed HD fresh install, played fine then bang! Ascertained from there it was the card as i had the side off with a 8" fan blowing in and started to notice artifacts and so on. That card (I still have it) the fan runs and it will play less intensive games, BUT as soon as you played a heavy session BANG, OS gone etc.
So no, damage manifests itself in many ways and may take longer to show up in the long run -as the case was with my card and a slooooooowly dying fan :evil:


What a disaster. Video card that kills your HD and OS? Well that's a new one. Now I see why you have a console. Definitely stay away from my PC's Stumpus. :lol:


Well you know i didn't say that about my HDD, so stop twisting things Tom.....or better still READ posts instead of seeing what you want to see...gee whiz :roll: I said quote:
corrupted my WinXP install -obviously thinking it was a failing HD -all indication pointed to it; bad sectors,corrupt NTFS, blah...blah.
With that i'm hardly pointing to my graphics card am i?? Soooooo the graphics card failed hard! Causing a complete DEAD PC with nothing but a HARD switchoff to get it back -Exactly, no reset would get it back, again understand? So after a lot of deliberation Tom, i had to eliminate causes; those being HDD and Graphics card. The cheaper of the two being the HDD, which didn't cure the corruption. So after i had bought an ATI 4800, the problem was resolved.
To enlighten you Tom, PCs aren't light bulbs. They don't just blow with OBVIOUS results -after nearly 20years i've had some stupid symptoms that were NOT obvious.
So please don't be ptronising, it makes YOU sound stupid for jumping to conclusionsin a CLEAR post refering to a hardware failure, and YOU were not there to witness, nor make judgement ok. Were you??
Nope didn't think so :roll:
What is it with you and your ego, got to belittle everyone out there for a thrill...just give it a break eh. It's BORING

@tub0rg
I had bought a Thermaltake copper pipe HSF to replace the stock BFG unit, but the damage was done. No the original HSF unit hadn't been removed prior to the failure so the GPU had plenty of thermal paste and so did the RAM sinks.

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