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Explaining DDR Memory Bandwidth - tech
(hx) 06:07 PM CEST - Jul,20 2004 - Post a comment / read (10)
This CoolTechZone's article will help you better understand memory bandwidth and the role it plays in your system's performance. It could also save you some money when selecting memory for your system. Here is an excerpt:
Since high-speed DDR brings some problems, it's only natural to look for ways of increasing the bandwidth of lower-speed DDR. The latest solution is to adopt a dual-channel bus to system memory, thereby doubling the potential bandwidth without having to increase memory clock speeds much higher than normal. This is a good solution to the bandwidth problem, since vendors can use JEDEC-authorized specifications yet still achieve higher-than-DDR400 data transfers. If you look at benchmarks, a dual-channel configuration is about 1-5 percent faster on average. Some specific system benchmarks may go as high as 15 percent.

With an Althon XP processor you will not gain any advantage from dual-channel DDR400 due to the limited bandwidth of the Athlon XP's front side bus (3200MB/second), however a memory controller can never operate at 100 percent efficiency, so you will actually get a memory bandwidth that is noticably lower than 3200MB/second for a single-channel DDR400 configuration. Dual-channel will eliminate most of the loss caused by the memory controllers inefficiency, so that's why you do get a slightly higher memory bandwidth in a dual channel configuration.
last 10 comments:
Genoism(09:02 PM CEST - Jul,20 2004 )
2 things, wasn't the front side bus on the athlon xp 333mhz or if a barton 400mhz? Unless thats what 3200/mb a sec is the equivilant to. And if so then if the harddrives can at most only handle 133mhz transfer speeds whats the point of going above that? Unless maybe if you say that some of the stuff you do remains in the ram...
2nd thing was, i just recently got a amd athlon 64bit 3200 proc, the front side bus on that is 1600mhz full duplex(whatever duplex means). So if my ram is pc2700 at i think 333mhz then my 1600mhz front bus speed should be useless? I only have one stick of 512 there but i think what your saying is that if i get another 512 stick it will go a mere 1-15 percent faster? That doesn't seem to be a whole lot eh?

maga(09:26 PM CEST - Jul,20 2004 )
man...you haven't got a clue, have you ?

:shock: :shock:

xxxx(10:41 PM CEST - Jul,20 2004 )
neither have you obviously maga, look at your dumbass comment. :roll:

@Genoism, don't worry your system is very good, of course I don't know what video card you are using, but in terms of your cpu and mobo you are fine. Today most people will tell you 768mb is a good standard now, but to be honest, 1gb of ram is better. Upgrade your ram and then if you have a current vid card, you'll be more than fine with any new game.

Genoism(11:38 PM CEST - Jul,20 2004 )
thanks, im not really worried about gaming, i just wanted to understand better about the ddram transfer speeds and why is it so important to get a mere 1-5% better transfer rates.

maga(07:15 AM CEST - Jul,21 2004 )
Genoism> 2 things, wasn't the front side bus on the athlon xp 333mhz or if a barton 400mhz?

Genoism> And if so then if the harddrives can at most only handle 133mhz transfer speeds whats the point of going above that?

Genoism> 2nd thing was, i just recently got a amd athlon 64bit 3200 proc, the front side bus on that is 1600mhz full duplex

this whole post is fucked up, obviously, xxxx, and if you don't know it, you're just as stupid as i think.

El_Coyote(02:23 PM CEST - Jul,21 2004 )
stop being a wanker and explain the guy whe he is doing wrong then?

maga(07:42 PM CEST - Jul,21 2004 )
El_Coyote> stop being a wanker and explain the guy whe he is doing wrong then?

I don't understand what he wants !!! :(

xxxx(08:33 PM CEST - Jul,21 2004 )
maga> El_Coyote> stop being a wanker and explain the guy whe he is doing wrong then?

I don't understand what he wants !!! :(


Ya exactly, put him down and 'you' haven't even got a clue, a real genius. Oh, I'd explain it to him, but not interested anymore in helping anyone here or trying to explain anything, i'll let you big mouths explain it to him, after all you all know way more than anyone. especially, stumpus, maga and lucas. Genoism ask them directly for the answer. But to be nice to the original question or inquiry. as i know the bigmouths can't help you, you can read this article at Tom's.. http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/19980101/ if that doesn't help just post back. i honestly, don't have the time, but i have a few links i give to people.

xxxx(07:12 AM CEST - Jul,22 2004 )
here was a good link i had, it gives you a nice list of the standard memory speed. http://www.upgradingandrepairingpcs.com/articles/upgrade12_02_02.asp

something on hd speed, understanding that http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/if/ide/modesUDMA.html dma133 = 133MB/s and serial ata 150MB/s

add this for a comparison for video card http://www2.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjQyLDI=
and you will note they used a system that most people don't have or require outside of gaming, to do a benchmark which leaves you in the end with comparing on 3dmark, so even if you don't know anything 3dmark is usually a good guessing tool of how close you are to others in terms of playabilty and quality. http://www.futuremark.com/

Genoism(07:28 AM CEST - Jul,27 2004 )
cool thank xxxx, i will definately check into all those things!

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