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ggrobot · Elite Member Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 45758

NVIDIAâ??s upcoming mid-range GeForce RTX 3060 graphics card has just appeared on Belarusian second-hand market Onliner. Probably no other graphics card in history was sold in this number before it was even officially released. We have been hearing about distributors and retailers selling RTX 3060 before the embarg

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gx-x · Elite Member Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 2542

crypto is slowing down (again) and this will all be over in a month.

Also, 3060 is a trash card for the MSRP, older generation cards are better and cheaper if you can find one...

Koogle · Elite Member Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 1362

So how long before the second hand market is filled with cheap RTX cards?

gx-x · Elite Member Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 2542

Well, it will take some time to fully recover. A lot of "new" people give up as soon as they see ~50% price drop within a month or so then they start selling hardware to recover more money.
It's a guess game anyway. Seeing the cycle before and watching trends- the only certain thing is that it will happen this year.

Csimbi · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:30 pm Post subject:

You know, Nvidia could deal a massive blow with changing their pricing structure; it would cause miners a massive loss.

gx-x · Elite Member Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 2542

how? nvidia sells over 90% of the chips to AIBs and it's out of their hands at that point.

Csimbi · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:44 pm Post subject:

By charging +25% for the CMP cards and -25% for the GPUs.

In addition, GPU prices with reduced hash compute performance should be flagged and sold cheaper - after all, you are buying a purposefully vandalized product.

gx-x · Elite Member Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 2542

Regular GPU's are better than (current) CMP cards(3060 vs 3060 cmp). Current CMP card uses more electricity and has lower hash rate than non-CMP model. Also, CMP models can be turned back into regular cards, just lacking monitor output, so you would have to use integrated graphics or another output to monitor and set the CMP card to render cuda, physics, and games.

It simply makes no sense to mine (arbitrary numbers here) to buy a CMP card to mine 25Mhs @130W when the same card, non-CMP model mines 30MHs @70W. (I am not going to fix the sentence, I know it's messed up Razz

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edit: there is already an easy override for current CMP cards, but unless they are only ones left, no one is going to "prefer" them.

Only solution would be if CMP cards did >35MHs @70W while non-CMP card did 30MHs @70W but the pricing on both model is similar.

Csimbi · Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:57 am Post subject:

Hmmm. That performance does sound very underwhelming, indeed.
Not sure why Nvidia would state the CMP cards would perform better for mining...

gx-x · Elite Member Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 2542

Because they thought they locked regular cards properly and that it won't be an issue since they would mine less than the mining version.
The problem is that even 4 year old cards mine better than their current mining cards...

Csimbi · Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:48 am Post subject:

oooh, that's bad, lol