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 Gameguru Mania News - Mar,01 2012 -  
Activision Blizzard Cuts 600 Jobs - briefly
(hx) 01:33 AM CET - Mar,01 2012 - Post a comment / read (28)
Activision Blizzard has cut 600 jobs due to World of Warcraft's continuing loss of subscribers.
Traditional video game companies like Activision and Electronic Arts have been trimming costs and releasing fewer games as the growth in the industry shifts toward free games on the Internet made by younger companies such as Zynga . The layoffs will not have an effect on the company's financials this year and have already been included in the company's earnings forecast, Activision said in a statement.

"Their subscriber base for 'World of Warcraft' is getting smaller so they are adjusting their cost structure for that decline," said Sterne Agee analyst Arvind Bhatia.

Ninety percent of the layoffs in its Blizzard division will not be related to game development and no developers that work on "World of Warcraft" will be affected, the company said.

The company did not respond to a request for comment on how many job cuts are in the United States.

"World of Warcraft," which is 7 years old, has seen its subscriber numbers steadily decline in recent quarters. The company ended the year with 10.2 million "World of Warcraft" subscribers, down from 10.3 million in the previous quarter. It lost 700,000 subscribers during the third quarter of last year.

Investors closely watch subscriber numbers for "World of Warcraft" because the franchise is the company's most profitable business and generates a steady stream of monthly revenue from its millions of users.
last 10 comments:
Csimbi(05:06 AM CET - Mar,01 2012 )
I wonder when Blizzard will realize that the only way to keep a game active in the long run is to allow modding...

BTW, developers always lose their jobs when there's nothing to develop.

Kompressor(08:36 AM CET - Mar,01 2012 )
The game looks like crap. They never upgrade the graphics. They'll also never get new players when the game looks like such crap. I'm surprised it lasted this long (seven years).

BTW, Blizzard is in the ER. They used to make the highest quality games, but now they are all turning to crap, like WoW and D3. The only good game they have left right now is SC2. At the same time, Valve games are getting to be really high quality, like DOTA 2.

If Blizzard doesn't do something soon, they are going to be left in the dust.

SABOT's(05:41 PM CET - Mar,01 2012 )
GAME is going tits up also!
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/34773ba4-62fc-11e1-b837-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1nsWFR7OF

They have cancelled ALL pre-orders of Mass Effect 3 and cancelled my N7 edition on the 17th of feb, without even so much as an email! I only found out due to finding headings like the above.
They are not stocking ANY EA title past SSX in the whole of march.

Bye,bye Game, you used to be good but turned mega greedy -looks like it's came back and bit your arse!

http://venturebeat.com/2012/02/29/troubled-u-k-retailer-game-will-not-be-stocking-mass-effect-3/

Csimbi(09:04 PM CET - Mar,01 2012 )
This article:
Stumpus> http://venturebeat.com/2012/02/29/troubled-u-k-retailer-game-will-not-be-stocking-mass-effect-3/
Says:quote:

“The high street is having a tough time at the moment because people have less money to spend. We’re doing as much as we can to give our customers the widest possible range during this time, but as flagged before, we need our partners’ help in order to do this. We want to be in a position where we’re selling as much of their products as we possibly can. We need their help to do this and that’s what we’re working on at the moment.”

Apparently, they believe that the problem is that "people have less money to spend". WTF? You sell crap, that's the problem!

tride(10:07 PM CET - Mar,01 2012 )
They sell crap ? Seriously ?
Pretty stupid point of view! In reality they had like 10 years on a row, selling the best selling game of all times...
10mil. active players to date and counting....
They have bunch of money to spend and they obviously are letting go WOW, because you know - they made it free to play ?! Why ? Because it is history!
They have other games coming up so...dont worry! They will hire more people when the time is right PLUS they will make a LOT MORE MONEY OUT OF DUMB ASS SUCKERS!

RayzorBlue(11:58 PM CET - Mar,01 2012 )
It is not Game's fault they are not selling EA games, EA have refused to supply them because they refused them credit. The likes of EA would love to see High street stores close it would mean less second hand games. Game have been trying to sell there European stores for a while but nobody will buy them. Its a shame to see Game in such dire straits I have been shopping there for years and still go in to my local store now as well as using there online services, I think it's time to spend my Game card points before they go under. As for Blizzard I couldn't give a shit I hope the developers go to decent company's and make games worth playing.

SABOT's(03:13 PM CET - Mar,02 2012 )
When i first bought a PS3, directly across from the Game store was HMV. They -HMV- were doing GTV+GT5 prologue + Beowulf Blu-Ray in their bundle. Game were doing some crap Lego-something + some poor film bundle for the SAME price!. So i asked the guy would he match HMV, some 30ft across from them, with the same bundle, since we have a Game points card. He instantly said no. No consultation with manager or store staff. So i walked straight over got my bundle from HMV and he looked at me clearly walking out and past his store with with NO sale of back then of nearly £300.

So same story repeats itself just recently. Buy a new slim PS3 and Game can't match bundle (Uncharted 3 + BF3 and Faster blu-ray) nor price -£25 more expensive. Again no haggling -same store, same HMV across from them.
As i said, they didn't have the decency to EVEN email us that THEY had cancelled my ME3 N7 order, that they had had for nearly 2-3weeks. Log in to my account and it's sitting cancelled nearly 2 WEEKS AGO!!
That's low and despicable. When you treat customers that are buying an £70 -nearly twice the price of a standard game- collectors edition. With disregard, they deserve to go down.
They are not competitive and by getting for eg; exclusive Skyrim,ME3 N7 bundles, they stiffled the market and charged stupid prices for those that wanted a collectible edition.
Amazon were selling the N7 edition £10 CHEAPER. Game were charging £130 for the EXCLUSIVE Skyrim CE with dragon statue. They never sold out and were sitting there at Xmas down to £49.99
So all the marking up and not selling has smashed them down big time!
Treat customers like shit and you'll get burned.... pretty simple really.

gx-x(06:06 PM CET - Mar,02 2012 )
You need businesses like "Game" so you could have HMV. You should thank them (Game) and buy something from them just to keep them around. If it closes, you won't like that HMV that much anymore, trust me. ;)

SABOT's(07:34 PM CET - Mar,02 2012 )
gx-x> You need businesses like "Game" so you could have HMV. You should thank them (Game) and buy something from them just to keep them around. If it closes, you won't like that HMV that much anymore, trust me. ;)

Game are not competitive anymore, that is plain and simply the truth. (i take it you are UK?)
For eg, Morrisons regularly undercut Game by between £5-8.
Sure HMV are hardly competitve either when it comes to singular games, my example was a direct competitive sale between two shops 30ft across from each other and Game didn't give a toss whether it was a £300 sale or a £40 sale.
Now in a market when common sense prevails, a sale is a sale against a rival.
As it is, i regularly buy from Amazon anyway -case in question ME3 N7 is about £5 cheaper, that's £5 in MY pocket.
HMV, like Gamestation are toiling out there. They STUPIDLY sell second-hand games for literaly, £5-10 less than full price, with NO working network pass. That is bloody criminal!
A generation of piracy and wanting something for nothing is killing off shops and mismanagement.
DLC, M$ and the likes of STEAM are controlling what games are sold and controlled AND on what format.
I'm glad i have lived through days when EVERYTHING was physical.

Csimbi(10:22 PM CET - Mar,02 2012 )
Stumpus> I'm glad i have lived through days when EVERYTHING was physical.Indeed.

gx-x(10:31 PM CET - Mar,02 2012 )
Stumpus> gx-x> You need businesses like "Game" so you could have HMV. You should thank them (Game) and buy something from them just to keep them around. If it closes, you won't like that HMV that much anymore, trust me. ;)

Game are not competitive anymore, that is plain and simply the truth. (i take it you are UK?)
For eg, Morrisons regularly undercut Game by between £5-8.
Sure HMV are hardly competitve either when it comes to singular games, my example was a direct competitive sale between two shops 30ft across from each other and Game didn't give a toss whether it was a £300 sale or a £40 sale.
Now in a market when common sense prevails, a sale is a sale against a rival.
As it is, i regularly buy from Amazon anyway -case in question ME3 N7 is about £5 cheaper, that's £5 in MY pocket.
HMV, like Gamestation are toiling out there. They STUPIDLY sell second-hand games for literaly, £5-10 less than full price, with NO working network pass. That is bloody criminal!
A generation of piracy and wanting something for nothing is killing off shops and mismanagement.
DLC, M$ and the likes of STEAM are controlling what games are sold and controlled AND on what format.
I'm glad i have lived through days when EVERYTHING was physical.


I am not from UK, I was just saying, you need more than one business open to have competitive market. Look at intel vs AMD atm. AMD released buldozer, intel postponed Ivy bridge and price cuts on Sandy bridge. You need Games open if you want other to be cheaper. Simple as that. :)

RayzorBlue(10:51 PM CET - Mar,02 2012 )
Stumpus> Beowulf Blu-Ray in their bundle. Game were doing some poor film bundle for the SAME price!.
Since when did Beowulf become part of a high quality film bundle?
I know what your saying and coming from a business that regularly has to compete with rivals, I would have kicked the arse of a member of staff that turned down a customer without checking with me first. That said it could simply be that stores manager is shit or the order could come from above (I hate dealing with my head office it is 300 miles away and knows nothing about our customers) that there is no dealing on certain items. As for shopping on the internet, it's great until something goes wrong. I recently bought Kinect from Game, it was defective so I took it back two hours after buying it got a new one and all was good. Had I bought it on the internet it would probably have been up to ten days or more perhaps from the time of ordering to getting a working Kinect. I don't need to go into why tax dodging internet stores are cheaper but if you don't buy local then your local and National economy suffers, and at the moment I am trying to spend as much of my money as possible in local or at least British tax paying stores to help our economy.

gx-x(11:28 PM CET - Mar,02 2012 )
since when did blue ray became high quality film medium anyway? Since sony sold you guys milions of PS3s for games and beaten HDDVD? What did that lead to? mkv BR rips packed in ~10GB loose ~2% of quality and that is only seen on professional grade gear, not on PS3...

Csimbi(01:01 AM CET - Mar,03 2012 )
gx-x> since when did blue ray became high quality film medium anyway?It never was and never will be. It's just bigger than a DVD.

gx-x(01:25 AM CET - Mar,03 2012 )
Csimbi> gx-x> since when did blue ray became high quality film medium anyway?It never was and never will be. It's just bigger than a DVD.

:) it was retorical question :) HDDVD was bigger than DVD also

Csimbi(04:29 AM CET - Mar,03 2012 )
Meh, I did not get that.

SABOT's(11:38 AM CET - Mar,03 2012 )
gx-x> since when did blue ray became high quality film medium anyway? Since sony sold you guys milions of PS3s for games and beaten HDDVD? What did that lead to? mkv BR rips packed in ~10GB loose ~2% of quality and that is only seen on professional grade gear, not on PS3...

Forget PS3. Blu-Ray is the medium that 3D films are released on and rented out from. Not to forget that 2D sits alongside the 3D version on one convenient blu-ray disc. Rather than making 2-3 different versions.

I have a near £1,000 Panasonic full 3D 7.1 system, that obviously plays standard DVD as well as standard Blu-ray.
Films don't go anywhere near my PS3 when i want pure sound and visual quality. :wink:

gx-x(02:22 PM CET - Mar,03 2012 )
granted, it's convenient to have more space and pack more things then you would be able with hddvd format, but it comes with the price. Actually, 20GB hddvd would be enough for 3D true-HD movie as well. PS3 was mentioned in context that it represented the means for BR to win the format war.
I personally couldn't care less for either of them, I get all my movies in digital format without physical medium. I don't need standalone players, and if I did, I would opt for something like WDTV and plug a network cable in it or just an external HDD. :P

edit: I either go to the theater or download movies from the internet, I have no desire to pay for that stuff, with the theater being an obvious exception :D

Baconnaise(06:39 PM CET - Mar,03 2012 )
gx-x> granted, it's convenient to have more space and pack more things then you would be able with hddvd format, but it comes with the price. Actually, 20GB hddvd would be enough for 3D true-HD movie as well. PS3 was mentioned in context that it represented the means for BR to win the format war.
I personally couldn't care less for either of them, I get all my movies in digital format without physical medium. I don't need standalone players, and if I did, I would opt for something like WDTV and plug a network cable in it or just an external HDD. :P

edit: I either go to the theater or download movies from the internet, I have no desire to pay for that stuff, with the theater being an obvious exception :D


I use the wd tv with wireless g atm (waiting for new gigabit router since old one died) and it streams even hd fine via wireless. If you pick one up you'll be happy with it.

Are you saying the file sizes and methods used for HD quality are a little over the top? I would tend to agree with you if you were making a small point here about that. I've got the whole season of shit my dad says and it's a 30 minute show. This means average scene SD qual or digital should be around 175-200mb. I have the 720p HD what it aired at which is about 500mb. There are people who go even bigger with file sizes over a gig or two. It really depends on the station and what it broadcasts at but many of the HD releases are wastes of space.

gx-x(07:02 PM CET - Mar,03 2012 )
Baconnaise> gx-x> granted, it's convenient to have more space and pack more things then you would be able with hddvd format, but it comes with the price. Actually, 20GB hddvd would be enough for 3D true-HD movie as well. PS3 was mentioned in context that it represented the means for BR to win the format war.
I personally couldn't care less for either of them, I get all my movies in digital format without physical medium. I don't need standalone players, and if I did, I would opt for something like WDTV and plug a network cable in it or just an external HDD. :P

edit: I either go to the theater or download movies from the internet, I have no desire to pay for that stuff, with the theater being an obvious exception :D


I use the wd tv with wireless g atm (waiting for new gigabit router since old one died) and it streams even hd fine via wireless. If you pick one up you'll be happy with it.

Are you saying the file sizes and methods used for HD quality are a little over the top? I would tend to agree with you if you were making a small point here about that. I've got the whole season of shit my dad says and it's a 30 minute show. This means average scene SD qual or digital should be around 175-200mb. I have the 720p HD what it aired at which is about 500mb. There are people who go even bigger with file sizes over a gig or two. It really depends on the station and what it broadcasts at but many of the HD releases are wastes of space.


Some things are worth watching in HD, some things are not worth watching in VHS let alone FullHD 3D...It's a matter of personal choice and taste. But that aside, 1080p scene movie release is around 10GB (DTS sound, ~100mins) and when played using, for instance, madashi (MadVR) renderer setup correctly it looks astonishing. Much better than standalone BR player and 40GB BR version of the same thing (as far as I have seen)
I am saying BR is overrated since it doesn't offer anything special if you have internet access and are willing to "steal" movies from internet. It also makes you watch commercials, warnings and other shit.
That's my opinion anyway, you folks are welcome to disagree with it :P

PS. You can download all 3D movies as well, you can even convert 2D movies to 3D movies (obviously this isn't the same as the "real deal" but then again, very few movies are actually shot in 3D, they mostly have been remastered and converted to 3D anyway)

PPS. I think 3D movies are overrated too. Waaay overrated...

SABOT's(03:36 PM CET - Mar,04 2012 )
[quote="gx-x"][quote="Baconnaise"]gx-x>
PS. You can download all 3D movies as well, you can even convert 2D movies to 3D movies (obviously this isn't the same as the "real deal" but then again, very few movies are actually shot in 3D, they mostly have been remastered and converted to 3D anyway)

PPS. I think 3D movies are overrated too. Waaay overrated...


I have a 46" and 23" TV that converts anything from 2D to 3D. It works very well on PC games and certainly some progs, mainly CGI films.

As i have a full expensive 3D setup -for the past 18months- and viewed 3D on cheaper tv sets, i have to disagree.
My 46" Panasonic is active, whereby my LG 23" is passive. There is a world of difference in quality with the same films/games on these two sets.
The active produces flicker free 60fps per eye on a 600Hz set. It's like watching pure glass. It also suffers ZERO cross-talk. Something that lesser sets suffer badly from. Even a near £5000 55" LED 3D Sony suffered (for me) flicker -some people can see it- it also had bad, bad cross-talk at all distances.
Research and going to specialist centres, Sony,Panasonic, LG enabled me to view 3D on a variety of tv's that i would NEVER own price-wise, but others i could in all light conditions.
I watch a 3D film once a week, every week. I rent them through a film/game package and can honestly say having watched 2D films on high-end gear for the past 20 years, 3D is like going from colour to black&white in tv evolution -with the right gear and of course the desire to WANT it.
Example: There's no point in sitting smoking/drinking your money away and then dissing an evolution simply because you're never going to own it because you wont change a habit. I've heard it many a time, it's the only way that some folk justify it to themselves.
Every car out there does the same thing, it drives A to B, burns fuel and gives you freedom, but when you start to talk price/performance? Then the car isn't the same anymore. Same is said about the PC in terms of what it is, it does the same thing as any other PC, except when you change the HW.
Back to the TV, again price and features change a normal tv into a completely different ball game.
You can't sit and paint 3D as an over-rated evolution in fim, gaming etc If it was it wouldn't be still around and having money ploughed into TV and progs, education and even surgery.
Everything is finite. It will run it's course -like vynl,tape cassette,CD to MP3.
It's subjective as a subject.
I have no commitments. No kids -and never will. I'm older and can buy what i want (within reason) research HW and have a wife that loves gaming and hardware.
I have 3D cable tv, football,films on demand.
I buy what i want, but i know that someone is sitting out there watching 3D on a MIND blowing setup that totaly defines the genre. That is the nature of the beast, just accept it that you have an opinion but others have and do own the equipment that will supercede yours and you can't base 3D on sub-standard viewing or research.
PS: i've downloaded 720P 3D 8gb films and they are rubbish compaired to native 3D blu-ray. They are also not sharp around the edges, depth is poor,poor and just don't go there with regards to sound. They are also in some cases presented in side-by-side 3D side-by-side 3D results in a halving of the horizontal resolution of each frame intended for the left and right eye
After 18months of weekly viewing, i think i can be a good judge of quality- maybe not about the film itself, but on £2000 worth of top of the range Panasonic that shipped with Avatar inc, after seeing the film in an IMAX 3D theatre, the panasonic special made for the 3D tv range, was far superior to a 100+ft IMAX. It was sharper and with incredible 7.1 audio. Sure you can't view 100ft 3D, but who exactly can?? 3d is more immersive in the home and that's what matters for me :lol:

gx-x(04:05 PM CET - Mar,04 2012 )
download 1080p 3d, not 720p hd 3d. BR is in 1080p.

As for 3D, I meant that I don't like it too much unless it's in the movie theater on a really really big screen. Looking 3D into the box is just silly, at least to me. 2D gives me less distraction and better immersion.
So, I wasn't talking about which TV is better for 3D, I was talking about the experience in general. I had a chance to view 3D movie on 2x1080p projectors giving some 4x3 meters picture on the wall using polarization lenses, like in the cinema and I find that satisfying 3D. 3D TV's are just way to small (again, it's my impression) and IMO waste of money if you are not looking at them from a very short distance, under 2 meters. Also, I find shutters unacceptable, only polarization glasses for me, thank you :P

All in all, if I want to view something in proper 3D, which is a rare occasion, I simply go and watch it in cinema for ~10$

Now don't get me wrong. If you enjoy it at home, if it is satisfactory to you I can understand that. To me, it's just way overrated. I'd rather go with virtual boxes and LCD goggles for full immersion.

PS. LCD screens have response time. I assume you know what that means. There is no LCD panel in the world that can fire up and shut down pixels at 600Hz. They can't even keep up with 60Hz at this time. You can force the signal to refresh them 1200000 times per second (120000Hz) but nothing is going to happen, they are still going to "fire up" as fast as they did on 60Hz. 600Hz is just a gimmick, an effect that is being processed by TV which basically averages the time between two frames in the signal and then adds more frames in between, thus giving you the "soap opera" series show effect. There are plugins for some video players (KMPlayer for example) that do the same thing and turn your screen into amazing 120Hz screen :P (it makes videos into 60fps) although, you cannot use that plugin for 3D, or maybe you can, hm, I haven't tried it. :P

PPS. You need to hear audio systems where only fronts cost ~5000$ and then be the judge of your amazing 7.1 sound for 2000$ :P I think youwill find one more thing that you can shell your money into, and the difference will be bigger than 2d vs 3d movie :P

Baconnaise(08:10 PM CET - Mar,05 2012 )
gx-x> Baconnaise> gx-x> granted, it's convenient to have more space and pack more things then you would be able with hddvd format, but it comes with the price. Actually, 20GB hddvd would be enough for 3D true-HD movie as well. PS3 was mentioned in context that it represented the means for BR to win the format war.
I personally couldn't care less for either of them, I get all my movies in digital format without physical medium. I don't need standalone players, and if I did, I would opt for something like WDTV and plug a network cable in it or just an external HDD. :P

edit: I either go to the theater or download movies from the internet, I have no desire to pay for that stuff, with the theater being an obvious exception :D


I use the wd tv with wireless g atm (waiting for new gigabit router since old one died) and it streams even hd fine via wireless. If you pick one up you'll be happy with it.

Are you saying the file sizes and methods used for HD quality are a little over the top? I would tend to agree with you if you were making a small point here about that. I've got the whole season of shit my dad says and it's a 30 minute show. This means average scene SD qual or digital should be around 175-200mb. I have the 720p HD what it aired at which is about 500mb. There are people who go even bigger with file sizes over a gig or two. It really depends on the station and what it broadcasts at but many of the HD releases are wastes of space.


Some things are worth watching in HD, some things are not worth watching in VHS let alone FullHD 3D...It's a matter of personal choice and taste. But that aside, 1080p scene movie release is around 10GB (DTS sound, ~100mins) and when played using, for instance, madashi (MadVR) renderer setup correctly it looks astonishing. Much better than standalone BR player and 40GB BR version of the same thing (as far as I have seen)
I am saying BR is overrated since it doesn't offer anything special if you have internet access and are willing to "steal" movies from internet. It also makes you watch commercials, warnings and other shit.
That's my opinion anyway, you folks are welcome to disagree with it :P

PS. You can download all 3D movies as well, you can even convert 2D movies to 3D movies (obviously this isn't the same as the "real deal" but then again, very few movies are actually shot in 3D, they mostly have been remastered and converted to 3D anyway)

PPS. I think 3D movies are overrated too. Waaay overrated...


Which player are you using with it? KM? I'll agree that the scene 1080p with dts are a configured player with an associated gpu (that doesn't suck) do look superb. The BR's are ok and will agree BR is over rated as is 3D.

I think the higher end lcd's now are 240? I still prefer plasma (my panny keeps going) and my newer 120 led lcd does fine for 340 bucks :). Keep the LCD's priced low which is the purpose of them imo.

gx-x(08:39 PM CET - Mar,05 2012 )
I use MPC-HC but with LAV filters and MadVR renderer. Also ffdoshow raw video renderer for deringing and I bitstream the sound to my Yammi AVR and from there to...well, whatever you want :) in PC room to small JBL control setup with addition of a 12" 300W RMS JBL subwoofer. In other rooms, well, it depends, stuff comes and goes in my house so...

anyway, you can also download full BR rip with all the 40gigs of content if 1080p mkv is not enough, but I am yet to see any difference between the two from the same source.
BR might become useful (finally) with this new 2040p content (how retarded is that for anything smaller than 100" ?! ).

AS for display types, well, both LCD and plasma have some advantages and disadvantages over each other. I for one don't like plasma's flickering, buzzing and burning. Dunno about Panasonic but on LGs and samsungs it's the same thing, it's barely noticeable but it's there, and I saw some 4 or 5 of them. I really like the depth of black compared to an IPS LCDTV.
In 2 years both will be a thing of the past with amoled screens in every new TV and neither plasma or LCD can compete with that. 0.01ms response time, wide gammut, no angle dependency...They will be available this summer, if not before, but they are still very pricy. LG 55" is said to be ~8000$, I think it's 3D capable (without glasses) and is 2040p, but I am not sure. Too much scarce info on CES, it's a bit confusing :/

SABOT's(08:45 PM CET - Mar,06 2012 )
gx-x>
PS. LCD screens have response time. I assume you know what that means. There is no LCD panel in the world that can fire up and shut down pixels at 600Hz. They can't even keep up with 60Hz at this time. You can force the signal to refresh them 1200000 times per second (120000Hz) but nothing is going to happen, they are still going to "fire up" as fast as they did on 60Hz. 600Hz is just a gimmick, an effect that is being processed by TV which basically averages the time between two frames in the signal and then adds more frames in between, thus giving you the "soap opera" series show effect. There are plugins for some video players (KMPlayer for example) that do the same thing and turn your screen into amazing 120Hz screen :P (it makes videos into 60fps) although, you cannot use that plugin for 3D, or maybe you can, hm, I haven't tried it. :P

PPS. You need to hear audio systems where only fronts cost ~5000$ and then be the judge of your amazing 7.1 sound for 2000$ :P I think youwill find one more thing that you can shell your money into, and the difference will be bigger than 2d vs 3d movie :P


Yes i know that LCD can't fire at 600Hz :wink: , It's a plasma, newest model.
I watched the Sony (3000K) 3D LCD 55" with active glasses, it was 200Hz yet i could easily see the flicker.
The Panasonic uses 'film creation', which in effect produces a 'live' tv footage effect with broadcasts- quite incredible really. Has to be seen.
The LG i have is passive, yet comes with software that installs on PC and converts dozen,dozens of titles into the most incredible 3D i have seen in gaming! Nothing is needed other than the passive glasses that come with it. Games like Skyrim,Mass Effect 1,2. MTW 2, Silent Hunter, Fallout 3 etc look just mind blowing in 3D at 1080P. Best of all it's free 8)
http://www.lg.com/uk/it-products/monitors/LG-3d-monitor-DM2350D.jsp

gx-x(10:32 PM CET - Mar,06 2012 )
obviously plazma is a different matter. I thought it was one of those XYZ refresh rate LCDs that use some movement recognition to try and make up frames in between bla bla

Csimbi(05:50 PM CET - Mar,16 2012 )
Here's a little perspective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZadCj8O1-0

You might want to post that on the web page.

Baconnaise(01:34 AM CET - Mar,18 2012 )
Samsung plasmas seem fairly good from what I've seen. I've always had a panny plasma though. If the 120 led lcd wasn't 340 bucks I would have bought a cheaper panny plasma which are superb for the cost. 50-55" is about as big as I can go in my house due to remodeling and needing all the space for a large family. The other is a price point constraint where over 1500 bucks I can't justify any performance or visual increase to the cost. It's hard to save money if you keep writing checks or spend it on superfluous items. If I had one or two kids or none at all though I'm sure I would have more leeway :p.

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