Gameguru Mania

[No.21]

Right.....obviously it seems like you dont know how severe cheat tool makers can implict on popular FPS game. And if you know "all" of them, then why dont you try to make em realise and make it better for all the gamers, instead of making it unbalanced.

"I go and test the cheats privately on my own server so I can be accustomed to how it works, find the subtlties."
You have a point there, but, not for the casual/usual player/gamer. Its more for those that are more interested in busting pathetic cheaters like in leagues/ladders etc.

"ALL the best players check out the cheats because by knowing how they work is the only way you can advance ahead of them."
Ahead how? By just "knowing" them?

"But when a cheat gets too rampant and the developer like VALVE doesn't give a rats ass and is too much of a bunch of Aholes to inform their community there "is" cheats still floating around such as the Aimbot and Wallhack. I just don't bother with the game."
Ah good. Now you do realise why that protest was made up. If things continue it will become "too rampant", it is rampant(check a dictionary) already.

" Firstly, I usually informed with screenshots from my friends or, I receive it in my email or I really start noticing people are acting weird in game."
I assume screenshots made/fetched by PB.

"The aimbot and wallhack has only been available for just over a week and it's not overly available because it's only a 'work in progress' version."
Excatly...."just" is a word that fits well.

"Anyhow, I don't need to lecture you on what I do on my own server or how I know or get info on the cheats."
Did i ask for to be lectured?

"We have not seen the cheat or suspected anyone of using them. Your whining and your petition is going nowhere."
Hahaha, check the forums. Going nowhere? Nowhere = As in your assumption with little logic by measuring and thinking about the magnitude its at. Look from the brightside what it can bring. Whining? There was a petition about PB before the game was launched.

"And just to update you. The writers of the aimbot are waiting for PB to come out for COD2 so they can bypass it just as they've already done in COD 1."
And you are sure that they are going with PB? Got an link on that? Well, if the cheats are public, then PB will most certainly pick em up and fish the cheaters in. I just hope that more server admins use the AMBL.

"I'm sure you knew there was an active aimbot+ wallhack in COD1 right. Still in use and not detected."
That i dont know, depends on much if its public and PB picked it up.

"Face it. Cheats will always be around and any developer claiming to have blocked em, is just lying. You can believe your anti-cheat is working but you're a fool. There are active hackers out there just like my friends who spend their time bypassing each and every obstacle. So you might as well just give up pc gaming and get a console."

Well if you are an such a pessimist, why do you keep on playing CoD2?
I dont expect them to do an miracle work. So buy releasing their cheats publicly they might be stopped, and probably will(depends on if PB got hold of it). If the game is using PB.
And i rather be an optimist than an pessimist like you in this matter and things around.
Why dont the cheat tool makers make an AC and try to prove that PB is crap by far then?

[Jelster]

[IRONMAN]

[devilhood]

Just thought I'd bump in and mention that there is a petition here: http://new.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?cod2pb with an already staggering 15,731 signitures.
Guess it's a slightly more obvious and statistical way of making IW notice the outcry.

[IRONMAN]

Excellent! Thanks for posting that. I signed it, and I hope numerous others do too.

[Nosferatu]

"Geez you get a plastic decoder ring when you join your super secret gang? Laughing"
I just burst in tears!!! Ha-ha-ha! My cheek-bones ached. Thanks for the good laugh, Jelster.
Just wanted to contribute that serious (relatively) CS players I know never play with cheats. That's a fact which lets me presume most other skilled players do just the same.

[Jelster]

Thanks Ironman for saying what I couldn't without inducing a ban.

For what its worth I signed the petition too, it can't hurt.

And on the subject of cheaters perhaps we should look at Casinos. Where cheaters still exist despit millions of dollars worth of investment. Do they just give up and go "oh well, lets just live with it" of course not, they certainly don't open a second ggmania without at least the same measures either. Yet for some reason we're expected to do so with CoD2.

Somewhere in there is a point.