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ggrobot Elite Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:01 am Post subject: A Fallout 4 PC update's coming next week [40628] |
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Bethesda releases a thank you letter to their fans for Fallout 4's launch success that details plans for beta testing and launching patches starting on PC. Here's an excerpt: Seeing and reading your stories has given our whole studio immense joy. It's amazing to see what you've done with the game, what you've disco
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Csimbi Elite Member
Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 4769 Location: The bright side of the dark side
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:22 am Post subject: |
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I have only three issues:
- controls (and their customization) are terrible
- load time increases as you progress through the game (it's getting far too long for comfort)
- no mod tools
My character is level 44 already, I have 4 full power armours (T45, 2xT60, X01) and I just met the brotherhood... |
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Koogle Elite Member
Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 1362
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:50 am Post subject: |
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"controls (and their customization) are terrible "
yeh ..my only complaint is the interface and controls for pc suck, its got that consolized crap shit design to it all...
speech dialogs that require either using the mouse to select or use the arrow keys? just fucking retarded, glad someone made a mod to use the number keys at least its quicker to select. Would be nice to skip speech.
then the exiting out of menus is usually TAB, until the last one, when you have to use the mouse to select Exit.. the whole thing just stinks of consolized crap.
Someone is gonna need to mod the shit out of the interface design and mechanics to make it a really good experience for pc gamers, (ie the kb/m user)
everything with the interface is just a chore to deal with, smacks of being dumbed down for console gamepad players. |
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imgarfield Contributor
Joined: 27 May 2011 Posts: 29
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Koogle is right, the controls are unbearable on the PC.
It feels almost random - sometimes "left/right" item on screen is left/ right arrow, though the game uses a / d in general, sometimes it is even ctr / alt for left and right! Madness! Also M opens map, I - inventory, but not if pimp-boy is already opened!?! WTF?
And so on, the list is long.
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Csimbi Elite Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Koogle wrote: | speech dialogs that require either using the mouse to select or use the arrow keys? just fucking retarded, glad someone made a mod to use the number keys at least its quicker to select. Would be nice to skip speech. |
That consolised one-word dial is rubbish so I am using the dialog mod, too. I'm just not complaining about that because that can be fixed by modding.
imgarfield wrote: | Koogle is right, the controls are unbearable on the PC.
It feels almost random - sometimes "left/right" item on screen is left/ right arrow, though the game uses w / d in general, sometimes it is even ctr / alt for left and right! Madness! Also M opens map, I - inventory, but not if pimp-boy is already opened!?! WTF?
And so on, the list is long. |
Yeah, the inconsistency of control keys sucks, too. |
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gx-x Elite Member
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Tom Elite Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Controls could use improvement. Clearly not a lot of thought went into play-ability with pc ui/controls. Half-assed like most other pc games. I'm level 21 already but I don't feel stymied over them. |
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Csimbi Elite Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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I was laughing my ass of. All true, sadly.
I'm surprised controls were not mentioned.
Bravo Todd Howard!
Bravo Bethesda! |
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Thudo Elite Member
Joined: 29 Oct 2009 Posts: 395 Location: North Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:34 am Post subject: |
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gx-x wrote: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyVQ9KaPxRI
Got a good laugh out of it | Oh gawd I cried that was marvelous! Yeah the game seriously needs help and MODS!!!!!!!!!! |
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Tom Elite Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thudo wrote: | gx-x wrote: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyVQ9KaPxRI
Got a good laugh out of it | Oh gawd I cried that was marvelous! Yeah the game seriously needs help and MODS!!!!!!!!!! |
Ya somehow my post got didnt post even though I saw it post, kinda like this game with disappearing bad guys. The video was hilarious and is true on so many levels, its hard not to laugh. They said they spent 7 years on this game. lmao. Sure they did. |
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Thudo Elite Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't that just the state of the gaming industry for the last ~decade? Devs and Pubs just don't care they just release based on insane timelines, satisfying their stakeholders, end-users-as-beta-testers, QA out the window, no more for-the-love-of-the-game mentality, forcing online-authentication (so what happens when in 5-10 years there are no more servers to authenticate? Do you then own a s/w brick?), etc etc.. Sad times really when modders have to fix/enhance what $100k/annum devs don't bother with. |
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Tom Elite Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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I expected more however it is still fun to play. I keep seeing vids of fucked up things in FO yet its been working pretty good for me. |
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gx-x Elite Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Tom wrote: | I expected more however it is still fun to play. I keep seeing vids of fucked up things in FO yet its been working pretty good for me. |
You are right, it's fun nevertheless, like you said. DogMeat does f**k stuff up. There's no way he won't do something that more often than not will just make smile so I am fine with it. His failed AI is kinda his "personality".
But on the topic of the engine (still a 1000 year old ES: morrowind engine ffs...), yea, they saw that they can get away with it and they are still doing it, and will continue doing it. |
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Csimbi Elite Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:56 am Post subject: |
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I'm pretty far into the game - now it's started crashing after about an hour of playing... |
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Tom Elite Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Crashing, nope not a single crash here. But I do occasionally get this really long level loads.Crazy how long it takes to go to other areas. |
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