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Windows 10 Is A Free Upgrade For All 7 / 8.1 Users [38847]
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:06 pm    Post subject: Windows 10 Is A Free Upgrade For All 7 / 8.1 Users [38847] Reply with quote

Wondering how much Windows 10 will set you back? In most cases, nothing. Microsoft has announced that its new Windows 10 operating system will be made available as a free upgrade during its first year of availability. All devices running Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1, and all Windows Phone 8 and 8.1 handsets, wi

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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once a device is upgraded to Windows 10, we'll be keeping it current for the supported lifetime of the device

"device lifetime" typically means 10 years.
What's the story with devices that are already 5 years old?
What's going to the story 5 years from now on? Do you expect us to throw it in the garbage or install Windows 7 on it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever this term means, I calc the life time of a device as 2 years, max three.

Why this? When I look around what's going on with Android and their "lifetime" no device older than 2 or 3 years will get upgrades to new versions.

But... here we have the answer to the question: Will W10 fail?
No it won't. Given out for free, resolving major issues of W8... a vast majority including me will upgrade for free. ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Given out for free, resolving major issues of W8... a vast majority including me will upgrade for free. Wink


what issues there was on windows 8 or 8.1 because for me it works better than windows 7
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And, as the bard would say, therein lies the rub:
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resolving major issues of W8

a. not just major issues.
b. built-in flawless installation from any type of USB device.
c. installation onto a USB stick (so I could take the whole thing with me - both the OS and my data - and run it on any hardware).
d. have a footprint of 8GB max (and not grow endlessy).
e. it's MS, so we know that none of the above is going to happen.

'free' will only work if it's free for everyone.
But it's the North America, so we know what 'free' really means: free with this and that limitation, terms and rubbish support.
If you want the real deal, you'll have to pay.
However, it would be an ideal spying platform for the government spies to peek into the homes all over the world.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Windows 10 for free.. that is some fking scary shit right there.

M$ don't just give away free candy without a catch.. A FCKING CATCH! gotcha ya bitches!

This is just about moving the masses to win10
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooh forgot to post the catch....

"Microsoft specified it would only be free for the first year, indicating Windows would be software that users subscribe to"

yeh sounds great Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koogle wrote:
ooh forgot to post the catch....

"Microsoft specified it would only be free for the first year, indicating Windows would be software that users subscribe to"

yeh sounds great Laughing


Yeah, it is a free upgrade for the first year. After that people still using 7 or 8 will have to pay to upgrade. There is no time limit on it though, if you upgrade for free during the first year it is yours to keep. It's like how Windows 8 was only $14 for a limited time.

One of the MS people said near the end of the presentation that they haven't yet decided what they will do after the free year is up. So, subscription is possible, especially since they twice referred to Windows As A Service for the upgrade. If they go this way, I hope they keep the yearly cost very low....yes, there's still a hope Wink Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Microsoft is pushing hard to get to a subscription model for everything. With Office 2013, it was actually difficult to find one that didn't need the one-year Office 365 subscription, and it cost more. Making Windows itself a subscription product is going to be right up their greedy alley, this is not going to be a "get 10 free, use it forever with full functionality" deal. They've just lowered the barrier to entry a lot, the stinger comes later.

However, it is in their best interest to keep people on Windows if possible. Mac is already a solid alternative, and if you look at Linux Mint with Cinnamon it's incredibly good. Add to that that Steam now support Linux and that all Microsoft really has that's unique is stuff like Exchange and unified communications with Lync, they have to get people to stay on Windows. That might conceivably let them leave Windows 10 free, just to have it as an enabler of their online subscription offerings.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, we are consumers, not customers.
You keep paying, not just buy once.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will I be able to do a clean install, or am I going to have to install Windows 7 first, and then upgrade to Windows 10?

Is this "free upgrade" version of Windows 10 going to be locked to my hardware? So if I buy/build a new computer, am I going to have to buy Windows 10 again?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, these concerns are base on truth...
subscription isn't an option and so on...
but nobody is forced to upgrade and a clean reinstallation of win7 should also be possible, except M$ expires your Key after upgrading (which could absolutly happen).

So (at least I as a tech guy)... am I scared of Win10? No.
M$ "can" try a lot of things, but in the end the choice is ours if we upgrade.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy
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Windows 3.11: Better than dos!
Windows 95: now 32 bit!!
Windows 98: uh...3 more than 95!
Windows ME: grinds cats into freezer meat!
Windows XP: We've been told you dont want or like having cats ground into freezer meat...so this one doesnt do that. also we're doing letters now for real instead of numbers. Dont question it..
Windows Vista: Reboot simulator included!
Windows 7: ok so lets just do numbers again. 7 is less than 95, plus 3.11 minus the square root of 2000 is....eh....we changed the start button for you
Windows 8:: Hello there youths! we're told you like touched screens! Also we have an app store now and that has always been there. check out the full-screen start menu there now isnt that nifty?
Windows 9:: Maadamme Romani threatened to unravel my lifeweave if we ever used 9. seriously. its cursed. also all our code would mistake it for 95 or 98.
Windows 10: We gave you back the start button, but also included a mini start screen in it as a big fuck you for not accepting the start screen. Also its free...because uh...Ubunt...er...apple is still our competitor...yeah.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nails it! :D
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heretic wrote:
Very Happy
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Windows 95: now 32 bit!!

Huh? More like: some 32bit, more 16bit and less 8-bit.
Getting an OS run on a 32bit CPU does not make the OS 32bit.
If you had to work with device drives and debug on Win95, you'd know what I mean.

You missed the pre 3.x windows releases, and Win98 SE.
Nevertheless, it's a good summary.
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